Bill bartlett-- Political democracy is THE form/essence of most of the big bourgeois powers political superstructures today ! You admit the bosses use their economic power , ownership of economy , etc. to build up govermental power to do their bidding. Great! Then how on earth is punching these governments ballot papers going to be be allowed to seriously alter this ruling class power? Bourgeois democracy is the most effective way(for now anyway) to keep the workers politically confused and loyal ideologically and hence easler to manipulate by capital to defend the bourgeois terrain , weakening greatly the workers class interests , actions, hence developing class consciousness in struggle, action itself. Even in 'democracy" ( a sham) , the big bosses rule thru their hold over the state bureacracy, institutionally, and not just thru parliament any more. Bill.The capitalists have stolen a huge march on you on this front. Its time to begin to wake up!. You still don't explain why the political state (US) will hand out red,whate and blue stickers to those who vote. I'ts because they are doing the 'duty' the rulers and their State power want them to do. Or do you think the State/government is really 'neutral" in all of this class antagonism budding up out of the wages system? Neil. _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis