For Carnap, see "The Elimination of Metaphysics Through Logical Analysis of Language". In: A. J. Ayer, ed., Logical Positivism. Glencoe, Ill.: The Free Press, pp. 60-81. Translation of Carnap 1931.
I don't think that's avaliable online. Jim F. -- Ralph Dumain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from mx27.lax.untd.com (mx27.lax.untd.com [10.130.24.87]) by maildeliver11.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABCQUE4WA38XWK2 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (sender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>); Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.econ.utah.edu (lists.econ.utah.edu [155.97.81.150]) by mx27.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABCQUE4WAYAHTYJ for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (sender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>); Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.econ.utah.edu) by lists.econ.utah.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GEz26-0003B7-8R; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:56:54 -0600 Received: from pop05.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([207.69.200.58]) by lists.econ.utah.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GEz24-0003B2-55 for marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:56:52 -0600 Received: from dialup-4.249.111.199.dial1.washington2.level3.net ([4.249.111.199] helo=clr-de11k3zglhh.igc.org) by pop05.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1GEz3k-0002yk-00 for marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:58:37 -0400 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:02:57 -0400 To: marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu From: Ralph Dumain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] God is Nietszche - dead In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Forum for the discussion of theoretical issues raised by Karl Marx and the thinkers he inspired <marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu> List-Id: Forum for the discussion of theoretical issues raised by Karl Marx and the thinkers he inspired <marxism-thaxis.lists.econ.utah.edu> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis>, This is all a load of shit, but first, I could use some specific references for Carnap's evaluation of Nietszsche. I've seen stray references to Nietzsche, but no sustained commentary. BTW, I don't think Trotsky's 1900 essay on Nietzsche was translated into English, unless it's happened over the past decade. I'd like to take a look at it. At 09:49 PM 8/20/2006 -0400, Jim Farmelant wrote: >Thus concerning Nietzsche, it is interesting to note that while the >logical positivist, Rudolf Carnap let loose on Heidegger in "The >Elimination of Metaphysics Through Logical Analysis of Language," he had >nothing but praise for Nietzsche. There, Carnap discerned similarities >between Nietzsche's critique of metaphysics as found in say Human, All >too Human and his own. He seems to have regarded Nietzsche as a >"metaphyscian" who had the good sense to avoid the errors for which he >reproached other metaphysicians. He admired the "empirical content" of >Nietzsche's work, including especially its "historical analyses of >specific artistic phenomena, or a historical-psychological analysis of >morals." And he praised Nietzsche for having chosen the medium of poetry >in such works as Thus Spake Zarathustra for presenting his ideas rather >attempting to present them in a theoretical treatise. The fact that >Carnap found much to praise in the work of Nietzsche is significant since >in "The Elimination of Metaphysics Through Logical Analysis of Language," >Carnap went on the attack against Heidegger, whose metaphysical >statements, Carnap dismissed as meaningless. Apparently for Carnap, part >of Nietzsche's greatness was the fact that he used poetic means for >expressing himself. This fit in with Carnap's view that metaphysics fails >because it makes meaningless statements. For Carnap, language had a >variety of functions to perform. One of those is the making cognitively >meaningful statements. Other functions include the making of what Carnap >described as emotive statements. Such language can express Lebensgefühl. >Metaphysics attempts to express Lebensgefühl too but fails because it can >only issue meaningless statements. The appropriate means for expressing >Lebensgefühl is art rather than metaphysics, and Nietzsche was praised by >Carnap for realizing that. For Carnap, Nietzsche was the metaphysician >who had the greatest artistic talent. _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis