More to the point about the nature of capitalism: not only private property, but the separation of the worker from implements of production, control of labor process, and ultimately from knowledge and skills. Role of technological deployment in reducing worker to appendage of machines, etc.
I'll have to see what else has been written on negation of negation that is usable. Engels' use of concept in dialectics of nature is total confusion and nonsense. I believe that Stalin omitted negation of negation and others approved of this. At 01:22 PM 3/23/2010, waistli...@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 3/23/2010 10:40:21 A.M. >Pacific Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ >(mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: CB: He says >"capitalist production... begets its own >negation. WL: Correct. What is capitalist >production if not bourgeois private property? I >am aware of the sharp differences within Marxism >on this issue. Marxism of all stripes contend >that the negation capitalist production begets >is the proletariat. What is the proletariat? A >property relation expressed as the workers >owning their labor ability in a world of private >ownership of means of production. On this basis >I contend that Marx is speaking fundamentally of >a property form being negated. Her is also >speaking of a quantitative aspect of >property development wherein one capitalist >negates - kills many. Monopoly negates - kills, >âless many.â >>>>> CB: What is the >qualitative change in means of production >that Marx mentions in the quote ? WL: You got >me there my friend. None. However you have >quoted this passage enough to know its this >segment of Marx is 1294 words including >footnotes. Marx is speaking of a new mode of >production taking root based on a >qualitative change in the means of production >and corresponding change in property. A >new reader will not know this from this passage >but there is an index called âindustrial >revolution.â My fear is writing something >that only âus â old heads will make sense >or nonsense out of. Xxxxxxxxxxxxx Negation of >the > negation signifies the preservation of the >specific quality of the > contradiction >pinpointed as the point of departure - >the starting point of a > motion. CB: Elaborate >this thought. WL. This is fully elaborated in >the example of advanced communist society based >on a post industrial development and >âwithering away of the stateâ will express >a negation of the negation as a return to the >quality called primitive communism - non >property in means of production. This is not to >say the draft is internally cohesion enough with >the proper flow. The problem is that form is >not separated from quality in reality. >************* Negation of the negation is > not >a universal law of dialectics but rather an >expression of the > dialectic of change. (see >Dialectics, quantity, quality, the antagonistic >element.) ^^^^^^^ CB: What dialectic is not a >"dialectic of change" ? WL: I am still fighting >with Gouldâs Marxist Glossary which list >ânegation of the negationâ as one of the >âlawsâ of dialectics. When I put down my >boxing gloves the above sentence is not needed >at all. >_______________________________________________ >Marxism-Thaxis mailing list >Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change >your options or unsubscribe go to: >http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
