If you actually look at the Magee book, you will see his claims go far beyond citing Hegel as an idealist. For him, Hegel is a magus, which is good news for some, bad news for others, and a load of crap for me.
Now on to Guy Robinson: Making Materialism Historical By Guy Robinson http://anti-dialectics.co.uk/making_materialism_historical.htm Robinson rightly singles out this neglected passage from The German Ideology: The history of nature, so-called natural science, does not concern us here; but we will have to examine the history of men, since almost the whole ideology amounts to either to a distorted interpretation of this history or to a complete abstraction from it. Ideology is itself only one of the aspects of this history. Other than this, Robinson's arguments are entirely familiar ones. Some of this essay is good if a retrod of familiar ground. Robinson writes as if he's discovering something new. The paragraph beginning with a rejection of the correspondence theory of truth is a mess. His dislike of noptions of objective reality, citing the Theses on Feuerbach, is familiar BS. The rest of this first essay is crap. At 10:23 AM 4/14/2010, c b wrote: > Ralph Dumain wrote: > > > I think Magee is full of crap. Rosa undoubtedly likes this because > > Magee creates a mystical Hegel that evokes revulsion in any > > materialist. There are Marxists who like Magee for the same reason, > > to validate their own perspective, e.g. Cyril Smith. It's easy to > > demolish diamat, but this does not approach anything that really > > matters for dialectical thinking. > > >^^^^^^^^^ >CB: U think someone is full of crap ? how unusual ! > >It's a,b,c of dialectical materialism that Hegel was an idealist, not >a materialist. So, any mature materialist already considers Hegel a >mystifier. For God's sake (smile) , Marx and Engels specifically say >that they extract the rational kernel from Hegel's _mystical_ shell. >What a dog-bites-man story is Rosa L.'s and Magee's report that Hegel >was a mystifier. > > > > > > > At 09:44 AM 4/14/2010, c b wrote: > > >farmelantj : > > > > > >Rosa Lichtenstein has just published > > >a third essay of Guy Robinson's at > > >her website. > > > > > >All three essays can be accessed at: > > > > > >http://anti-dialectics.co.uk/other_material.htm > > > > > >Scroll to the foot of the page. > > > > > > > > >^^^^^^^ > > >CB: There, Rosa L says: > > > > > >[1] Hegel and the Hermetic Tradition, by Glen Magee > > > > > > > > > > > >This book was published by Cornell University Press in 2001; here I > > >reproduce the Introduction to this work, copied from the Marxist > > >Internet Archive. The thesis of Magee's book is central to the aims of > > >Essay Fourteen (summary here), where I show that dialecticians have > > >imported into Marxism a set of ancient mystical and Hermetic theses, > > >which ideas can be found represented throughout the work of countless > > >ruling-class theorists, right across the globe, and in all known Modes > > >of Production. > > > > > >^^^^^^^ > > >CB: Some known modes of production don't have ruling classes. And > > >said modes without antagonistic classes have dialectics , too ! See > > >Levi-Straussian structural analysis of Native American myths in > > >_Mythologique_ , for example. _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list [email protected] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
