archivefolder wrote: Replying to osiris: Replying to KG_One: "The UAW supports the Employee Free Choice Act, which is proposed legislation that would make it easier for workers to form unions. But the legislation has faced strong opposition in Congress."
If EFCA makes it easier to join a union, how easy would it be for those same people to LEAVE that union when they are not being represented? If it's all about the workers, it should work both ways. If King really wants to accomplish anything, he needs to make the the UAW an example of what should be, not what is. Solidarity House needs a thurough cleaning and delousing. I have no issue with this. 8/2/2010 12:05:37 PM Replying to osiris:<blockquote>Replying to KG_One:<blockquote>"The UAW supports the Employee Free Choice Act, which is proposed legislation that would make it easier for workers to form unions. But the legislation has faced strong opposition in Congress."<br /><br />If EFCA makes it easier to join a union, how easy would it be for those same people to LEAVE that union when they are not being represented?<br /><br />If it's all about the workers, it should work both ways.</blockquote><br /><br />If King really wants to accomplish anything, he needs to make the the UAW an example of what should be, not what is. Solidarity House needs a thurough cleaning and delousing.</blockquote><br /><br />I have no issue with this. archivefolder Recommend(1)New Post Reply to this Post Report Abuse EbonyTatas wrote: Replying to CrazyBryan: Replying to EbonyTatas: You uneducated drunks This makes you part of the problem, not the solution. Over generalizing like this makes you sound like an idiot, with no real grasp of the topic being discussed. It also hints to some deep seeded repressed jealousy to a person who made a good wage performing a job that required minimal education at the time. any response you utter is now null and void. Why would I be jealous of UAW workers who now make $12 an hour before taxes and union dues? And the only problem in this state is the entitled mentality of our least skilled workers; no one deserves to be in the middle class just because they have a job. If you guys want to earn a better living, try aligning your skills to someone other than an illiterate peasant in a 3rd world country. 8/2/2010 12:02:51 PM Replying to CrazyBryan:<blockquote>Replying to EbonyTatas:<blockquote>You uneducated drunks</blockquote><br /> This makes you part of the problem, not the solution. Over generalizing like this makes you sound like an idiot, with no real grasp of the topic being discussed. It also hints to some deep seeded repressed jealousy to a person who made a good wage performing a job that required minimal education at the time. <br /><br />any response you utter is now null and void.<br /><br /></blockquote><br /><br />Why would I be jealous of UAW workers who now make $12 an hour before taxes and union dues? And the only problem in this state is the entitled mentality of our least skilled workers; no one deserves to be in the middle class just because they have a job. If you guys want to earn a better living, try aligning your skills to someone other than an illiterate peasant in a 3rd world country. EbonyTatas Recommend(1)New Post Reply to this Post Report Abuse texasbf wrote: Easy to say when u have a WH willing to scrreeww everyone owe $ by auto cos and then give it all to unions..what is that the new vision? if they wont join us we will sccrreew them..when will the unions recognize that all over america they are just as responsible for the countries demise as Washington..everybody is out to take advantage of the taxpayers and guess who that is..us.. 8/2/2010 12:02:50 PM Easy to say when u have a WH willing to scrreeww everyone owe $ by auto cos and then give it all to unions..what is that the new vision? if they wont join us we will sccrreew them..when will the unions recognize that all over america they are just as responsible for the countries demise as Washington..everybody is out to take advantage of the taxpayers and guess who that is..us.. texasbf RecommendNew Post Reply to this Post Report Abuse Mary411 wrote: So now we have UAW members joining the ranks of the Union bashers here posting on the Freep! If you are indeed a UAW member have no no shame that you would air your dirty laundry here?? 8/2/2010 12:01:50 PM <br />So now we have UAW members joining the ranks of the Union bashers here posting on the Freep! If you are indeed a UAW member have no no shame that you would air your dirty laundry here??<br /> Mary411 RecommendNew Post Reply to this Post Report Abuse i_speak_truth wrote: I'm a Retiree. I worked 30 years. I have a love/hate view of the UAW. They knew exactly what they were doing all through the 30 years I was there. I begged the UAW to focus on the customer 25 years ago. They refused. Were we overpaid? probably. If you think that's wrong. I know of a chairman who made 4 times more than the line workers at doing nothing but screwing his own BROTHERS & SISTERS. Please, is this how the UAW treats family? Sure it is. BOB, getting back to basic begins on the inside. Clean up your house from the top down. The dirt from the top keeps falling down to the lower floors making the bottom dirty. Bob doesn't get it. 8/2/2010 12:01:05 PM I'm a Retiree. I worked 30 years. I have a love/hate view of the UAW. They knew exactly what they were doing all through the 30 years I was there. I begged the UAW to focus on the customer 25 years ago. They refused. Were we overpaid? probably. If you think that's wrong. I know of a chairman who made 4 times more than the line workers at doing nothing but screwing his own BROTHERS & SISTERS. Please, is this how the UAW treats family? Sure it is. BOB, getting back to basic begins on the inside. Clean up your house from the top down. The dirt from the top keeps falling down to the lower floors making the bottom dirty. Bob doesn't get it. i_speak_truth Recommend(1)New Post Reply to this Post Report Abuse boekenhoutskloof wrote: Replying to Atilathehun: You'd not like to live in a world where everything was controlled by the companies. Re-visit history and you'll see that was the norm once. Decide for yourself if that's the level of consideration for the worker, environment, and society in general that you would want to return. If you think it would be different today you're a wide-eyed optimist. Unions are a necessary check and balance to the abuses that unrestrained business would bring. Signed, Wide-eyed pessimist 8/2/2010 11:58:51 AM Replying to Atilathehun:<blockquote>You'd not like to live in a world where everything was controlled by the companies. Re-visit history and you'll see that was the norm once. Decide for yourself if that's the level of consideration for the worker, environment, and society in general that you would want to return. If you think it would be different today you're a wide-eyed optimist. Unions are a necessary check and balance to the abuses that unrestrained business would bring.</blockquote><br />Signed, <br /><br />Wide-eyed pessimist boekenhoutskloof Recommend(4)New Post Reply to this Post Report Abuse osiris wrote: Replying to KG_One: "The UAW supports the Employee Free Choice Act, which is proposed legislation that would make it easier for workers to form unions. But the legislation has faced strong opposition in Congress." If EFCA makes it easier to join a union, how easy would it be for those same people to LEAVE that union when they are not being represented? If it's all about the workers, it should work both ways. If King really wants to accomplish anything, he needs to make the the UAW an example of what should be, not what is. Solidarity House needs a thurough cleaning and delousing. 8/2/2010 11:58:11 AM Replying to KG_One:<blockquote>"The UAW supports the Employee Free Choice Act, which is proposed legislation that would make it easier for workers to form unions. But the legislation has faced strong opposition in Congress."<br /><br />If EFCA makes it easier to join a union, how easy would it be for those same people to LEAVE that union when they are not being represented?<br /><br />If it's all about the workers, it should work both ways.</blockquote><br /><br />If King really wants to accomplish anything, he needs to make the the UAW an example of what should be, not what is. Solidarity House needs a thurough cleaning and delousing. osiris Recommend(1)New Post Reply to this Post Report Abuse CrazyBryan wrote: Replying to EbonyTatas: You uneducated drunks This makes you part of the problem, not the solution. Over generalizing like this makes you sound like an idiot, with no real grasp of the topic being discussed. It also hints to some deep seeded repressed jealousy to a person who made a good wage performing a job that required minimal education at the time. any response you utter is now null and void. 8/2/2010 11:57:58 AM Replying to EbonyTatas:<blockquote>You uneducated drunks</blockquote><br /> This makes you part of the problem, not the solution. Over generalizing like this makes you sound like an idiot, with no real grasp of the topic being discussed. It also hints to some deep seeded repressed jealousy to a person who made a good wage performing a job that required minimal education at the time. <br /><br />any response you utter is now null and void.<br /><br /> CrazyBryan Recommend(1)New Post Reply to this Post Report Abuse archivefolder wrote: Replying to osiris: Replying to WolfReyet104: />And you would know that they often don't follow orders and build and pass junk along with their "It's not my job" attitude. Right. Being threatened with firing for stopping the line in order to address quality issues. Being told to ship the part, that it will be caught in the next operation, "we'll fix it in the recall". Actually, it's no surprise many union memebers have (or had) the "It's not my job" viewpoint. At one time there were over 30 job classifications that, by contract, allowed workers to claim "It's not my job". 8/2/2010 11:56:46 AM Replying to osiris:<blockquote>Replying to WolfReyet104:<blockquote>/>And you would know that they often don't follow orders and build and pass junk along with their "It's not my job" attitude.</blockquote><br /><br />Right. Being threatened with firing for stopping the line in order to address quality issues.<br />Being told to ship the part, that it will be caught in the next operation, "we'll fix it in the recall".</blockquote><br /><br />Actually, it's no surprise many union memebers have (or had) the "It's not my job" viewpoint. At one time there were over 30 job classifications that, by contract, allowed workers to claim "It's not my job". archivefolder Recommend(1)New Post Reply to this Post Report Abuse osiris wrote: Replying to Mary411: Replying to i_speak_truth: Yes, it's very true that sacrifices have been made by labor. Again by LABOR, to keep the UAW heads in their personal gravy train. That's the part that makes me sick. IMO, a ...............on vacation but he will go on vacation by himself. The UAW heads have gotten very greedy and they sacrifice the workers to keep themselves lined with more money and perks. This is the internal problems that Bob King needs to address. But I know he won't. The UAW is dirty but they are foremost dirty inside. If you clean the inside won't the outside shine as well? Won't ever happen. Bob is working it from the wrong angle. He's just as greedy as those before him. It's all about him and the kissers that kiss his behind. Just wondering are you a UAW member? If he isn't, I am.......and I find absolutely no problem with what he wrote. Add in how international officers seem to get their kith and kin into cush jobs....... 8/2/2010 11:55:53 AM Replying to Mary411:<blockquote>Replying to i_speak_truth:<blockquote>Yes, it's very true that sacrifices have been made by labor. Again by LABOR, to keep the UAW heads in their personal gravy train. That's the part that makes me sick. IMO, a ...............on vacation but he will go on vacation by himself. The UAW heads have gotten very greedy and they sacrifice the workers to keep themselves lined with more money and perks. This is the internal problems that Bob King needs to address. But I know he won't. The UAW is dirty but they are foremost dirty inside. If you clean the inside won't the outside shine as well? Won't ever happen. Bob is working it from the wrong angle. He's just as greedy as those before him. It's all about him and the kissers that kiss his behind.</blockquote><br /><br />Just wondering are you a UAW member?</blockquote><br /><br />If he isn't, I am.......and I find absolutely no problem with what he wrote. Add in how international officers seem to get their kith and kin into cush jobs....... osiris Recommend(1)New Post Reply to this Post Report Abuse _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list [email protected] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
