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Yeah well, in this period a snake oil salesman and con artist named William "Big Bill" Rockefeller lived openly with three women and mocked churches as places only peasants would frequent causing his wife and son to become scandalized by him, they being staunch revivalists. The one thing young John D took from his father, however, was his sobriety, which he taught him was necessary-as with the card shark-in order to successfully carry out his scams. "Dr. Livingston", a name he was forced to take to stay ahead of the law and creditors, was long lived like his son living into his 90s and dying in 1907. His cronies would be amazed when he tried to tell them his eldest son was the richest man in the world. One of his younger brothers, Frank, unlike his two older brothers involved in the oil business, did not buy his way out of the Civil War and was wounded therein, something he never ceased having contempt for them for until he died in 1917. -taken from Ron Chernow's "Titan" On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Mark Lause <markala...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The first time a workers organization seriously discussed presidential > politics was 1844 among the National Reform Association. They sent > letters of inquiry to all the presidential candidates. The most > significant responses were those of James Birney of the abolitionist > Liberty Party and Joseph Smith, who apparently ran briefly as an > independent Mormon. > > Smith's letter declared support for the radical land reform measures, > including the use of the law to limit land ownership, a homestead law, > and the exclusion of family farms from foreclosures for debt. This > was, I repeat, in 1844, and an extraordinarily radical position for > anyone to be taking. > > ML > > ________________________________________________ > Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu > Set your options at: > http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/tomcod3%40gmail.com ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com