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let me finish by quoting Barry Warsaw,  the author of Mailman, the
software our list mail server uses:

"""Mitigating the effects of the DMARC reject policy are difficult.  All
known mitigation techniques break some user expectations and/or degrade
the user experience.  .... [snip] ... Solutions are difficult and
complicated.  The DMARC authors essentially acknowledge that adopting
DMARC requires changing mailing list habits.  You cannot continue to run
your mailing list the way you always have, in DMARC compatible way."""

so, SOMETHING had to change.

Les

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