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Well, Lüko, this is not entirely accurate. There are some Irish and Puerto Rican's who might disagree. Secondly, it's a ridiculous statement anyway: that in the end the people win. Wow....so? We're supposed to sit back and wait? So far the Palestinians have been fighting for almost 80 years (if we use the 1936 Uprising against the British as a starting date for Palestinian nationalism). It doesn't look like the Zionist state is going anywhere soon. I reject the idea that because it is perceived as "inevitable" that the "Crusader state" will be overturned that someone this makes everything ok...which is what you are implying. In fact nothing is inevitable. That most, but not all such states have been is not a guide for future results, at all. David ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com