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Russia is run by a corrupt pack of super rich capitalists, called oligarchs, who intend to oppress and exploit every piece of the earth they can get their hands on for their Empire, and don’t give a shit about freedom, democracy, the right of nations to self-determination, or anything else besides heaping up their money. The United States is run by a corrupt pack of super rich capitalists, called oligarchs, who intend to oppress and exploit every piece of the earth they can get their hands on for their Empire, and don’t give a shit about freedom, democracy, the right of nations to self-determination, or anything else besides heaping up their money. The Ukrainian government in Kyiv is run by a corrupt pack of super rich capitalists, called oligarchs, who intend to oppress and exploit every piece of the land inside the borders of the Ukraine they can get their hands on, and don’t give a shit about about freedom, democracy, or anything else besides heaping up their money. That said, regardless of the regime in power over them, the Ukrainians have the right to refuse to become part of either the Russian or the U.S. Empires, and to resist either by force of arms. If Ukrainians could manage to wipe out their own ruling class government of oligarchs, centered in Kyiv, and install a working class government, it would be much easier to defend themselves against hungry Empires. This would also bring the support of unhappy Eastern Ukrainians. The Eastern Ukrainians have as much right to revolution against a government of capitalist oligarch tyrants as the Ukrainians had to rise up against the government of the tyrant Yanukovych and his oligarchs that their uncompleted revolution overthrew in February. The Eastern Ukrainians are right to rise up against the new government of oligarchs in Kyiv and the billionaire oligarchs that government has appointed to rule over them without their consent. If they wish to, the Eastern Ukrainians have as much right to self-determination as any other group of oppressed, exploited people ruled by appointed oligarchs who set governors over them from far away, and grow fat on their exploitation. In the best of all possible worlds, Ukrainian government soldiers and the armed rebels of Eastern Ukraine would stop fighting each other and join together to wipe out all the Ukrainian oligarchs, and set an example for what Russians can do with Putin’s government of, by, and for the super rich in Russia. Obviously, that is not likely now. That is no excuse for tolerating an infestation of vermin who side with the U.S. Empire against the Russian Empire, or those who side with the Russian Empire against the U.S. Empire. T -----Original Message----- >From: Glenn Kissack via Marxism <[email protected]> >Sent: Jul 28, 2014 11:10 AM >To: Thomas F Barton <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [Marxism] Putin's leftist friends > > >> ______________________________________ > >Thanks for posting this. Among other things, the author clearly understands >that Ukraine is the site of inter-imperialist conflict and that the U.S. has >been active in pulling Ukraine out of the Russian orbit and into that of >Western capitalism. In arguing against the left taking pro-Putin positions, he >consciously avoids letting the U.S. off the hook. The Salon piece stands in >contrast to Clay's postings. > >Glenn >________________________________________________ >Send list submissions to: [email protected] >Set your options at: >http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/thomasfbarton%40earthlink.net ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: [email protected] Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
