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      On Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine & MH17

> With all the focus on the rights of Russian speakers in Ukraine and
> the struggle of pro-Russian separatists, it should be lost on nobody
> that an imperialist Russia is conducting a war of aggression against
> its smaller neighbour, Ukraine. Those were Russian troops that
> occupied Crimea <http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26379722> before
> it was annexed. More recently Russia has become even more aggressive
> and we have seen reports of Russian armor entering Eastern Ukraine
> <http://online.wsj.com/articles/nato-says-images-show-russian-tanks-in-ukraine-1402760713>
> - of course we are suppose to be stupid about where the
> /"separatists"/ get /their/ heavy weapons. We also have reports of
> missiles being fired into Ukraine from Russia
> <http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/07/16/russia_is_firing_missiles_at_ukraine_grad_rockets_us_sanctions>
> and Russian warplanes downing Ukrainian planes
> <http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/18/world/europe/earlier-downing-of-transport-plane-over-ukraine-foreshadowed-tragedy.html?_r=0>.
> So quite apart of the demands and organization of pro-Russian
> Ukrainians in the east, we have a Russian war of aggression against
> Ukraine.
> Now to the case of MH17. We have the Ukrainian telephone intercepts
> <http://www.sbu.gov.ua/sbu/control/uk/publish/article?art_id=129035&cat_id=39574>.
> I believe they are accurate
> <http://news.yahoo.com/us-says-recordings-ukraine-rebels-admitting-mh17-downing-161443402.html>
> and have gone into detail <http://youtu.be/xT66VFuTYVc> as to why I
> think that. I have also debunked the Russian /"expert's"/
> <http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/2014/07/us-recordings-on-pro-russian-downing-of.html>
> claim that they are fake. The story they tell is that the shoot down
> of MH17 was an accident on the part of the pro-Russian forces. They
> first thought it was a Ukrainian military plane and then found out
> otherwise. This is an explanation I can believe, although I would add
> that such an accident was the inevitable result of Putin's aggressive
> attempts to impose a no-fly zone over part of the country he is attacking.
> The Russian response is that Ukraine did it and it was no accident but
> the sacrifice of 298 lives by Ukraine in the hopes of winning support
> for its side, just as, according to Putin and Assad, the Free Syrian
> Army was willing to use sarin on its own people for the same reason. I
> have recently been reminded just how common this twisted logic is
> after reviewing events surrounding the /"Mississippi Burning"/ murder
> of three civil rights workers in 1964. The KKK city officials
> suggested the civil rights movement disappeared the three kids
> themselves in a ploy to get the federal government involved! Those
> /"anti-imperialists"/ who rallied to Assad's claim that the rebels
> gassed themselves in hopes of provoking NATO intervention? This is the
> company they keep. 

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