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I admit I've never been to the US, so I may be wrong. But from the comments of the US and British leftists it seems that religious identities are more important in the anglophone world than they are in the ex-USSR. I think this has something to do with the legacy of Protestantism and slightly different ways of secularisation. As for AWL, it's interesting to me, why they can't be called Ukrainian patriots for their position on Ukraine but can be called Zionists for their attitude towards Israel? Also, here exists a whole lot of nuances of the national question. Take this 'death to the settlers' issue, for example. Unfortunately, Ukraine has been a place where such calls materialised during the Volhynia Massacres. No, such calls by the oppressed are not innocent and should be taken seriously. _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com