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"I’m saying she hasn’t always been sufficiently disciplined in her utterances" Maybe you should whip her then. Her "utterance" is fine unless someone like you is looking for a way to purposefully distort it and reduce it to an ethnic stereotype. Talking about government greed should not be seen as even remotely controversial, let alone for a government that has takes in billions each year to steal land. - Amith On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:29 AM, MM <[email protected]> wrote: > On 08 Feb 2015, at 9:54 PM, A.R. G <[email protected]> wrote: > > "AW: I am a big supporter of BDS. I frankly think that it is the best, > absolutely the best way, because the Israeli government and people really > love commerce and making money and so anything that interferes with that > will get their attention at least." > > It is problematic that "leftists" find this problematic. Any time Israel's > greed and usurpation of resources is rightfully condemned it is immediately > reduced to some kind of anti-Semitic canard. > > "The Israel Lobby is too powerful" -- this is the canard about Jews > controlling the world! > "The US media is biased toward Israel and employs Zionist lobbyists" -- > this is the canard about Jews controlling the media! > "American financial establishments send billions to Israel in investment" > -- this is the canard about Jews controlling the banks! > "Jews in the United States are extroardinarily privileged and > over-represented in all elite institutions" -- this is the canard about > Jews controlling America! > "Israel murdered over 500 children last summer" -- this is a blood libel > against the Jews! > > Virtually every condemnation of Israel, the American Jewish community, > Zionism, its lobby, etc can easily be reduced to some sort of chauvinistic > anti-Jewish remark. Stop the witch-hunt. Alice said nothing wrong. > > > Disagree. There is an obvious and important difference between saying, > "the Israeli government and people really love commerce and making money” > and saying, “as with any other country or people, the financial costs > associated with BDS are more likely to have an impact than mere moral > condemnation”. > > Each of your other examples is, in principle, subject to empirical > verification; the fact that Zionist trolls would try to spin them is > irrelevant. Walker’s remarks invoke an ethnic stereotype by suggesting that > an essentially universal but distasteful human characteristic somehow > applies uniquely to “the Israeli government and people”. If she’d spoken > about resource grabs, that would be something else entirely; it invites > specifics, and Israel clearly deserves aggressive condemnation in that > regard. But it doesn’t fit the argument she was trying to make, so she fell > back on an anti-Jewish trope that lurks in the nether regions of the minds > of most of us, because we were socialised into it before we knew enough to > resist. It was a lob-ball to the Zionist trolls, and we can’t afford to > give them easy hits. > > I’m not suggesting Walker is a willful anti-Semite; I’m saying she hasn’t > always been sufficiently disciplined in her utterances. It isn’t fair that > we need to be, but it is the reality. > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
