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-----Original Message----- From: Joseph Catron via Marxism

Was Trotsky in favor of either this kind of comically sloppy reasoning, or
pathological lies? I'd love to see the chapter and verse.

Really, instead of this back and forth between two people, why don't you actually respond to the article that was sent? Proyect made some political comments about it that I agree with, if you don't agree, or you liked Cockburn's article, or you have some other opinion, why not express it instead of opening up discussion by calling people boneheads without even explaining your issue.

My reaction: I'm not surprised Cockburn has written a Hitchens-style interventionist piece at all, and the actual imperialist intervention into Syria and Iraq since mid-last year has been the Achilles heel of all these "anti-imperialists" who were determined to defend Assad's regime against imperialism and have not been able to adjust their "anti-imperialism" to reality since the intervention turned out to be so different to what was in their vivid imaginations.

As for the question of whether Cockburn is a "pathological lair", well I'm not sure about the pathological bit, but the number of lies in that article was prolific. Unless they're not lies and he just doesn't know. But if the latter, then why are we supposed to read a journalist specialising in the mideast who doesn't know stuff? Example: his bald assertion that "al-Qaida" has taken over Idlib. Wow.

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