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Sure, but it'll take a day or three. I have to be in Grant's Pass
tomorrow and then I go back there on the 1st. Sounds worthwhile, I'll
read Lenin and Kevin.
On 6/28/2015 7:01 PM, Andrew Pollack wrote:
Ralph could you summarize your lengthy contribution above in 3 or 4
bullet points (to give us incentive to read it after wading through
Yves' offensive nonsense)?
Yves hasn't a clue about political dynamics. In contrast, Richard
Seymour and Kevin Ovenden among others, who like us have no illusions in
Tsipras, are explaining how working class Greeks can use this
referendum to advance the struggle, and how we can help them.
On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Ralph Johansen via Marxism
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 6/27/2015 12:39 PM, Louis Proyect wrote:
On 6/27/15 3:30 PM, Ralph Johansen via Marxism wrote:
Tsipras’ Bailout Referendum Sham
Posted on June 27, 2015 by Yves Smith
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/06/tsipras-bailout-referendum-sham.html
"Greek defiance of its creditors will make it more, not less
dependent on them in the next year."
So, it was more radical not to defy the creditors? Gosh, Naked
Capitalism is more dialectical than I could have imagined.
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More like rock and hard place? The implication I get from that
statement is that Yves seems to agree with assessment that
referendum is too late in the day, a strategic error in the
context, quoting: 'As Costas Lapavitsas of Syriza’s central
committee pointed out in early March
<https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/03/lapavitsas-varoufakis-grexit-syriza/>,
it was evident that the Troika and Eurogroup were not willing to
negotiate a new deal, in both senses of the word, with Greece.
Tsipras’ strategy had failed and it was time to change course',
because creditors could now [if not then] care less. And back then
Greece had more capital reserves with which to change course,
which are now largely gone. I have been following Yves Smith, and
from my reading he has been about as generally supportive of
Syriza as anyone (if sometimes critically so). But again, 'change
course' to Grexit? Well, yes, maybe, given the choices, but I'd
have to rely on those most affected to form an opinion.
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