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Marv Gandall wrote: Congratulations. You now understand the position of the left critics of the Tsipras leadership (including Jim Creegan) who argued from the beginning that the government should be mobilizing and educating the people and preparing the state administration for a Grexit, rather than doggedly reinforcing illusions that a voluntary or involuntary departure from the eurozone was wholly unthinkable. Instead, Syriza’s ineffectual leadership expended precious financial resources and time prostrating itself before its creditors. The result is that it has rendered the country far more vulnerable to its predators than when it took office, and far less equipped to deal with what everyone understood was going to be a painful transition to a sovereign currency and resuscitation of the economy under public ownership if events happened to move, as they have, in that direction. Louis Proyect wrote: Making your axis of intervention based on what Syriza should have done is pointless. That is like urging Bernie Sanders to run as an independent, excoriating Hillary Clinton. That of course is what a "socialist" should do. I can see writing one or two articles or emails to that effect but repeating it for six months is just obnoxiously repetitive. Creegan's problem was not his ideas but his imitation of a phonograph needle stuck in a groove. I love Beethoven but who would want to listen to the first five notes of his fifth symphony repeated for hours on end. ********************************* I was baited as a Spartacist sectarian in response to the first critical remarks I made about Syriza over six months ago, not only after several iterations. It is the fact that I criticized Syriza at all that you can't stand, not any repetition of my criticisms. Your only argument against me in December was that Syriza had lots of followers, while nobody was listening to me. Maybe not. But you can bet that very few people will be listening to Alexis Tsipras for very long now, either (not to mention the people who apologized, and continue to apologize, for him). You threaten to banish me from Marxmail because I might "alienate" those timid souls who regard any expression of strong views as "sectarian". Ban me! History has already absolved me! (Not to put too coarse a point upon it.) Jim Creegan _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com