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I can't say I agree with Luko, but I don't agree with Michael either. Do
you guys really think that this kind of intervention is any sort of
guarantee against the bloodshed in Syria? US troops on the ground in Iraq
oversaw and participated in endless and ongoing bloodshed in Iraq.
Likewise, US-backed regime changes throughout the world have never been
successful, stable, etc. What makes you think that limited intervention
along the lines of no-fly zones would create some sort of fundamentally
different reality on the ground? Is there precedent for that working
elsewhere?

The issue of the boy drowning is quite obvious: Europe's failure to care
for those who die as a result of wars and regime operations that it has
variably backed, attempted to overthrow, etc. I do not see how his death
tells us what is to be done about Syria. In fact, I remember asking many
times both on this list and elsewhere what needs to be done. Short of
flag-waving and solidarity actions with anti-regime flags it seems like
nothing.

- Amith

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Lüko Willms <[email protected]>
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> on Donnerstag, 3. September 2015 at 16:47, Michael Karadjis via Marxism
> wrote:
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> >  The one thing the democratic
> > opposition wanted from the world was a no-fly zone and air-patrolled
> > humanitarian corridors. Even that was too much to ask. There is no going
> > home now.
>
> > And so I have to say to them, this is the reality, this is the
> > result of all your anti-war activism, and now the people are drowning in
> > the sea.”
>
>   Another House Nigger found to bolster the war drive.
>
>   The problem for the corporate media is not the war, but that the war is
> not intense enough. They want a direct armed intervention by the USofA and
> other colonialists to take over the country.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Lüko Willms
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