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Maybe Gary. I think however the long years of social movement and union inactivity make it difficult to mobilise people to and then beyond marches. With the Greens having only an electoral perspective, the great discontentment has little chance of finding an outlet, let alone forcing successful action on capital and its governments.

Comradely

John

On 29/11/2015 8:51 PM, Gary MacLennan wrote:
These marches were of the same size as the huge rallies before the 2nd Gulf War. Those marches were ignored and no peace movement rose subsequently.

Will the same fate befall the climate change movement? Impossible to tell, really. But at a guess I think not. Principally, because we are further down the road towards a severe crisis of legitimacy.

Our leaders appear more and more detached from the lived experience of the vast majority. In the mean time the Number One Hegemon, the USA, seems crazier and crazier. Trump, Carson & co seem barking mad, not to put too fine a point on it.

My feeling is that the next economic crisis will be a down turn too far. That will create two, three many Syrizas and then it will be a case of no more water, the fire next time.

comradely

Gary

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    The people's climate march in Canberra

    Given the vested interests involved, and the short termism that
    engulfs both business and governments, coupled with each country
    battling for a competitive advantage over the others, I do not
    think capitalism can solve the crisis of climate change. Our
    marches show we can raise our voice for action. However to win our
    demands for real results ('Turn bull into action' was one clever
    sign at the Melbourne Rally) we need to have a say in the
    outcomes. That means in my opinion not making polite
    representations to the representatives of a system addicted to and
    dependent on fossil fuels but fighting for greater democracy to
    win real action on climate change.

    http://enpassant.com.au/2015/11/29/the-peoples-climate-march-in-canberra/

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