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It should be pointed out, especially on this list, that the only reason they can do this is the utter failure of the "Left" to provide mass leadership for either struggle. Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust <http://VietnamAmericanHolocaust.com> Linux Beach Productions Venice, CA 90291 (310) 581-1536 Read my blogs at the Linux Beach <http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/> <http://wlcentral.org/user/2965/track> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 4:21 AM, Louis Proyect via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > On 1/2/16 1:27 AM, Shalva Eliava wrote: > >> Yep. For those of us who can read Russian and Ukrainian and have been >> following the "revolution" since its inception, it's not a surprise. >> It just goes to show the futility of Maidan-type uprisings in a >> country where there is no concept of a non-Stalinist socialism among >> the mass of working people. What you see happening in Poland right >> now is pretty much the best you can hope for in these post-Stalinist >> countries (that or Russian imperialist control a la Moldova or >> Belarus); i.e. decidedly right-wing nationalist populism. In Ukraine >> it may be a far more violent affair since the ultra nationalists are >> being armed by various sides and manipulated by oligarchs like >> Kolomoyskiy... >> > > I would not discount the very early mobilization of Russian nationalists > in Donetsk for the current dynamic, which was Putin's purpose from the > beginning. He feared Maidan type movements in Russia so he helped create > the environment in which the democratic and class demands were swamped by > reactionary nationalism. In effect, he was using the same technique that > Assad used in Syria. > > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/clayclai%40gmail.com > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
