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Manuel Barrera writes: "Heatwaves rising from the desert always seem like an oasis.' ..only if you think that the Sanders phenomenon has no cause in real angst and suffering. It is a symptom of the everyday experience of millions -- most of whom would not be able to make the transition, on their own, to relating to another alternative left voice. If Sanders had remained an 'independent' -- of course that may indeed be a different challenge with an easier tactical passage. But inside the DEMs...!? That's your problem, stateside. But that Sanders poses as a socialist and projects a sort of crude and erratic class divide -- in the context of the US Presidential Game Show : that has to be very significant. That has to be a plus because, despite what ever his preferences, Sanders unleashes and inspires forces that may later find him,and his party allegiance, wanting. What happens 'if'/when he backs Clinton? Where does that momentum and frustration go? It won't default to a bunch of wannabe 'we-told-you-so' outfits who did not go through the Sanders experience with them. It will instead be demoralised. And the promise fades because the 'real' socialists could not harness it. dave riley _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com