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And as expected, the below from Dave McReynolds, one-time pacifist leader, now the most vocal tankie/Assad-appeaser on the UFPJ list: *"Sorry Andrew, but what revoutionaries? The rebels in Syria are a mixed bag - a very mixed, badly divided bag. And few of them are* *revolutionary in the sense I think you or I would use that term. They have been supported by Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and the US - none of them being revolutionary forces.* *And yes, a real part of the problem is that the rebels will not engage in the talks.* *It is interesting that even though Kerry seems to accept the reality some of us have urged, you now seem to think he is backing Assad.* *The problem is that the US fears tossing out Assad would mean Syria would become another Libya."* *David McReynolds* On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Andrew Pollack <acpolla...@gmail.com> wrote: > I sent the below to a UFPJ list. I'm dreading the replies. > > The story linked below is significant IMO for three reasons: > 1. Its aim is to reinforce pessimistic sentiments, encouraging > revolutionaries to give up. > 2. It confirms the widely circulated story that Kerry told Assad opponents > to STFU about food, water and other basic needs, and that he blamed them > for the talks' breakdown. (Yes, I know, many on this list will respond: > "Kerry is right, how do you expect sieges to be lifted if you don't talk?" > and thus will implicitly blame them for their own death by starvation. To > all of you I say "Shame!") > 3. Most significantly, the Times presents, in a tone indicating confidence > that they won't be challenged, what the real global Left has been saying > all along: > "American-backed insurgents have long been used to the American stance in > recent years, that the United States did not want them to actually win the > war — lest a sudden toppling of Mr. Assad lead to Islamist rule — but > wanted to prevent them from losing for long enough to pressure the > government to negotiate for a political solution." > > http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/10/world/middleeast/syrian-opposition-groups-sense-us-suppo > rt-fading.html?ref=todayspaper > <http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/10/world/middleeast/syrian-opposition-groups-sense-us-support-fading.html?ref=todayspaper> > > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
