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^^^^Note also who's commenting on the Facebook post re: Stanford. Most of the people are criticizing Stanford SJP after they admitted what they did, or praising them for admitting to a "mistake" (even though they did no such thing). Tony Greenstein and the braindead degenerate blogger who slandered Counter-Punch are still defending the Stanford students *even after they admitted to asking the refugee speaker not to challenge Israel's right to exist*. Even after the students have essentially validated the speaker's claim that she felt it necessary to call off the event due to this request, these parasites insist that the issue was Alison Weir's alleged anti-Semitism. That alone should validate the concerns in listed in NE's article (the original topic) about these openly racist tendencies on the left. Completely specious claims about anti-Semitism (in this case, a false explanation of an event cancellation over a person accused very tangentially of anti-Semitism giving speaking tips to a speaker / being in the audience) are being invoked to justify shutting down anti-Zionism (in this case, a speaker wanting to challenge the legitimacy of the regime that dispossessed her). This is the effect of ensuring that the conversation about Zionism largely remains an internal Jewish community issue, or where narratives of Jewish victimhood are given knee-jerk validation by leftists in the context of Palestine solidarity. Nada Elia writes, "when it comes to the Question of Palestine, we have been plagued for decades with a narrative of Jewish victimhood that completely erased any mention of Palestinian loss, the ongoing Nakba. " That is almost a literal description of what happened at Stanford. - Amith On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 2:57 AM, A.R. G <amithrgu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Kevin, pls see this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jKqkm5j7qd4 > > Again, the only issue with Alison was that one of those "excellent written > materials" questioned Israel's right to exist. That excellent material was > not written by her. That was the issue that Alison turned out to be: the > flyer she brought sparked a disagreement that made the speaker -- not the > students -- call off the event. Alison Weir's presence was tangential, and > technically the students didnt cancel the event at all -- the speaker did. > > I'm going off what both Paul and Amena (the speaker) said combined with > the fact that the students have since conceded that they did, in fact, ask > the speaker not to challenge Israel's right to exist: > https://www.facebook.com/notes/stanford-students-for-justice-in-palestine/on-the-events-of-april-6th-2016/1019432714815563 > > I posted links to a video interview and longer discussion about it earlier. > > As for whether Paul was naive or disingenuous about Weir's presence in > the audience, her speaking tips, or bringing flyers, does it matter? That > is a truly bizzarre reason to cancel an event even if it were the actual > reason given that it was not, in fact, Weir's event. > > And if it was the reason, then why did they concede that they asked the > speaker not to challenge Israel's right to exist? Answer: they lied > > On Friday, April 29, 2016, Kevin Lindemann and Cathy Campo via Marxism < > marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > >> ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** >> #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. >> #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. >> #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. >> ***************************************************************** >> >> "A.R. G" wrote: >> >> > She [Alison Weir] wasn't the issue; >> > he was correct. >> >> In the quote I cited, Larudee didn't say "she wasn't the issue." He said, >> "We had no idea that Alison would turn out to be an issue." There's a >> difference. He admits she turned out to be an issue, but he claims the tour >> organizers didn't anticipate that. Given the controversy surrounding Weir, >> Larudee and the other tour organizers were either incredibly naive, or >> Larudee is being disingenuous. I will leave it to others to decide which >> seems more likely. >> >> > She was in the audience >> >> She didn't just happen to be in the audience. The coordinator of the >> tour, Paul Larudee, invited her to participate in the event. Not only did >> he ask her to bring her "excellent written materials," he also asked her to >> "meet with Amena [Elashkar] and give her advice on reaching American >> audiences." Yet he claims Weir was not "intended...to have any role in the >> presentation at Stanford"! No, of course not. She was just invited to bring >> her "excellent written materials" and coach a speaker on "reaching American >> audiences"! >> >> > a flyer she brought (written by a PLO advisor) >> > said something about Israel not having the right >> > to exist. The organizers made an issue about that >> > flyer, so the speaker (who agreed with the " >> > flyer's content) freaked out and called off >> > the event. >> >> That isn't what Larudee says. He says, "some members of the SJP >> immediately objected to Alison’s presence, perhaps assuming she was going >> to speak, and also to the presence of her book and the If Americans Knew >> materials." >> >> --Kevin >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm >> Set your options at: >> http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/amithrgupta%40gmail.com > > > > -- > - Amith > > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
