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Yeah, it's definitely a misrepresentation of Jacobin's editorial line. Gindin was profoundly and dangerously wrong when he said we should drop the open borders position, but "liberalized but not open" is different from "heighten border controls." And it's just disingenuous to present Jacobin as endorsing Wagenknecht's position given that just last month, they ran something by a member of Die Linke that rejected Wagenknecht's position as pandering to AFD, the political establishment, and xenophobic racism: httpsj/die-linke-germany-sahra-wagenknecht-refugees-afd/ Let's criticize Jacobin when they're wrong (and any accommodation to xenophobia is obviously wrong), but that doesn't mean distorting the facts in what comes off as a bad-faith dismissal, to be frank. Sent from ProtonMail mobile -------- Original Message -------- On Feb 17, 2017, 5:59 PM, Tristan Sloughter via Marxism wrote: ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. ***************************************************************** This is full of stretches: "The editors of Jacobin had already announced their intention to press for more voluble support for border controls, in various contexts and articles." This sentences links to the article by Sam Gindin where he says, "To simply assert the righteousness of fully open borders in the present context of economic insecurity cannot help but elicit a backlash and will ultimately do little for refugees and future immigrants". I completely disagree with Gindin's argument that we shouldn't continue to stand firmly behind open borders, but his article is not the editors of Jacobin announcing anything at all. The same goes for the Die Linke article, proper link: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/02/die-linke-germany-sahra-wagenknecht-immigration-xenophobia-afd/ Thinking these views reflect the opinion of the editors of Jacobin is wrong. This doesn't mean there shouldn't be push back when they publish articles we disagree with, they can always do better. Their articles on Syria are a clear case of publishing absolute shit for a period and then turning it around. _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/sophia.burns%40protonmail.com _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
