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This is way beyond normal.

On May 10, 2017 8:33 PM, "Carl G. Estabrook" <galli...@illinois.edu> wrote:

> Perhaps Trump is just not so canny in furthering his own personal
> financial interests as Obama (and HRC). But does that represent a crisis of
> the ruling class?
> The greatest threat to the international bourgeoisie (represented in the
> White House particularly by Gary Cohn) seems today to be populism/‘economic
> nationalism’ (represented in the White House by Steve Bannon).
> We certainly should be considering the implications of that.  Regards, Carl
> On May 10, 2017, at 10:15 PM, John Reimann <1999wild...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't know if Carl read the article I sent or is just responding in
> general, but I most definitely did not mention that the Comey firing was an
> assault on "democracy", nor did I mention anthing about Russian hacking the
> election. I did mention Trump's financial ties to Russian
> investors/oligarchs/mobsters, and this is simply a matter of record. It's
> well established. And I did say that Trump is using the executive branch of
> the US government to further his own personal financial interests at the
> expense of the global interests of the mainstream of the US capitalist
> class.
> Why are we supposed to care?
> Try this: If the enemy is in crisis, shouldn't we be aware of it and
> consider its implications?
> John Reimann
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Carl G. Estabrook <galli...@illinois.edu>
> wrote:
>> [John Steppling] I keep reading postings about how Trump firing the head
>> of the FBI is an assault on democracy, or the American way of life, or
>> something. The front page of the Huffington Post is hysterical with cries
>> for the need to investigate Russian hacking. I have had three friends (sic)
>> refuse to discuss this with me when I questioned their sanity in believing
>> the russian hacking narrative. Not argue it...but refuse to argue it. Not
>> one, but three. There is no evidence of anything out of the ordinary here.
>> If there were, trust me we would have heard about it by now.
>> So what I take from this is that the white establishment....to which the
>> aforementioned friends belong, really, is in crises. If Obama had fired the
>> head of the FBI what would the reaction have been? (the answer is nothing.)
>> But how is the US/Saudi assault on a defenceless Yemen not an assault on
>> Democracy? I mean congress didn't authorize it did they? Or how is the orgy
>> of state murder in Arkansas...including the suppression of new evidence
>> that might have exonerated one of the men executed.....how is that not an
>> assault on Democracy? How is the illegal assassination of Qadaffi not an
>> assault on Democracy or the coup orchestrated by Clinton as secretary of
>> state in Ukraine not an assault on Democracy? How is the coup in Honduras
>> or the current attacks on Venezuela not ....well...you get the idea. How is
>> the war on Syria.....and it is ON SYRIA.....how is that not cause for
>> outrage? None of these things matter to liberal America. Dead Arab
>> children....pshaw...can't be bothered. The execution of mentally impaired
>> men, from the underclass, denied adequate representation....meh, cant be
>> bothered. BUT....but when Trump fires the head of a notoriously corrupt
>> organ of surveillance and arrest and worse.....an organization founded to
>> quell dissent and rid the nation of commies and minority
>> troublemakers......how am I supposed to care exactly?…
>> > On May 10, 2017, at 3:37 PM, John Reimann via Marxism <
>> marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > Make no mistake, President Trump's firing of FBI director John Comey
>> > represents a crisis for the US capitalist class. It's one more
>> indication
>> > that it cannot control the executive wing of its government. Trump
>> claims
>> > that he fired Comey because of the latter's handling of the
>> investigation
>> > of Hillary Clinton and his lack of repentence over this. However, just
>> days
>> > before the firing it's reported that Comey had asked for additional
>> funds
>> > to investigate alleged Russian meddling into the US elections. Such an
>> > election would inevitably have opened up the financial ties between
>> Trump
>> > and Russian investors and outright mobsters.
>> >
>> > https://oaklandsocialist.com/2017/05/10/comey-fired-us-a-failing-state/
>> >
>> > John Reimann
>> >
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