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On 8/20/2018 12:08 AM, John Reimann wrote:
thank you, Joaquin Bustelo, for that information on the origin of the slogan. However, your general history confirms my belief. As you say, the adoption of the slogan by DSA came about in part through the role of the national office of DSA. And that office would resist to the end any campaign that was not acceptable to the "progressive" wing of the Democratic Party.

Let me get this straight.

The DSA National Office capitulates to the Democrats. Yet it adopts Abolish ICE *before* any of the Democrats.

But!!! Some Democrats, pressured by the mijente campaign and recognizing that ICE --at least under this name-- is toast after kidnapping children at the border, say "Abolish ICE."

Which proves just how capitulationist the DSA N.O. is: they *pre-capitulated* to the Democrats by adopting a demand of the intransigent wing of the immigrant rights movement even BEFORE some Democrats felt compelled to at least pretend to support it.

But wait a minute!!!

I think that by adopting the demand of the immigrant rights movement the DSA is trying to discredit the Immigrant Rights Movement because the DSA, by pre-capitulating in adopting this demand, is trying to make it seem like the Latino immigrant rights movement is ALSO pre-capitulating because it's the same demand as the DSA is supporting, when in fact the demand is absolutely righteous and the DSA National Office has a fiendishly clever plan to oppose it by supporting it.

Gotta go. Alex Jones is calling about me appearing on his show on account of how the DSA, by fiendishly opposing the demand by supporting it, is actually supporting the demand by opposing it, since everyone knows how treacherous and capitulationist the DSA is, so because they're trying to fool people into believing they oppose the demand by supporting it, what they're really trying to do is to support the demand, by getting people to think they're opposing it because they're supporting it.

There is a historical precedent: https://youtu.be/xWGAdzn5_KU?t=50s

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