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The sight of men downplaying threats of violence against women, especially lesbians, is always awful. People can check just some of the material themselves and see it is not "anecdotal". And, of course, there is no equivalence of threats on the part of lesbians against trans who identify as female as lesbian (the kind of lesbians who say things like "TERFS can choke on my girl-dick"). The behaviour is overwhelmingly one way. It really should not be excused. Some examples: https://www.peaktrans.org/hate-from-trans-activists/ https://lesbian-rights-nz.org/shame-receipts/?fbclid=IwAR1Xw7ELmVNsNyyIK2T8f78LNd7zD44V-xJGbGpeUzpOPoxazvVemhS2CSM We are now going round in circles. MM wants to blame the lesbians who are getting abused in this way and play it down in my view. MM thinks the starting point is elswhere. We're not going to agree. People can read the material - well, where the trans censors haven't gotten gender-critical feminists shut down - and make up their own minds. Phil _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com