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On 3/3/19 10:39 PM, Joaquin Bustelo via Marxism wrote:
"There is a debate among many socialists, including in the Democratic
Socialists of America, about this approach of running on the Democratic
Party ballot lines and caucusing not just with the more progressive
democrats but even with the traditional neoliberal hacks like Nancy
Pelosi. Some turn their back on using Democrat ballot lines while others
insist that is OK provided we proclaim that the Democratic Party cannot
be reformed or refuse to have anything to do with the traditional
democrats on the ticket.
"But I think this system of alliances is dictated by the logic of the
situation in Congress and most of all by the fact that most working
people do not yet understand the difference between a Bernie Sanders or
Ocasio-Cortez and a Pelosi or Schumer."
If nothing else, Joaquin is consistent. From 2008:
But whereas Obama's frankly bourgeois-reformist speech made me feel
hopeful, La Botz's outspokenly revolutionary-socialist article only made me
feel despair. Obama's speech grappled with the REAL politics of the United
States, along its most explosive axis, the color line. The country I want to
make a revolution in ... or to be even more honest, the country I want to
destroy ... is the one that murdered Medgar Evers, that murdered Malcolm X,
that murdered Martin Luther King, that murdered Fred Hampton, that murdered
Don Pedro Albizu Campos. It is the one where Black folks in hundreds of
urban ghettos rebelled and made "Burn Baby Burn" the cry of freedom, and it
took the 101st Airborne fresh from Vietnam to douse the flames.
The country La Botz hangs out in is one where, in discussing
revolutionary strategy in a broad, historic sweep, the 1934 strikes led by
Stalinists, Trotskyists and Musteites play a big role, but the influences
that shaped my life --Evers, Malcolm, Dr. King, the Panthers-- merit at most
an indirect allusion in a passing suggestion that there won't be a new SDS
or SNCC (and never mind Che, Fidel, Don Pedro, Ho or the Sandinistas).
I really DON'T want to be in a discussion with La Botz and the
Monthly Review crew on the correct revolutionary strategy for the labor
movement. I very much want to be in a discussion with the "Yes We Can" crowd
on how to bring about the change we want.
And some people here are going to say -- but that's it, it's the
same thing.
full: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism/2008-March/169617.html
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