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Louis Proyect wrote
On 9/28/19 5:05 PM, Ralph Johansen wrote:
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There are highly paid policy wonks and apologists for
capital in think tanks and right wing funded foundations,
those with control of the media, the IMF, World Bank, EU and
transnational capitalist agencies all over the capitalist
world, some of whom no longer think denial is going to get
it - the evidence is too palpable - and they are instead
pondering how they can divert attention and attack from
those with the real power, the real culprits, corporate
perpetrators of climate destruction, Syngenta, Monsanto,
Cargill, ADM, Dupont, the oil and gas and transport.
banking, industrial and commercial and distributional
factions who know that it's either growth or death for
capitalism, to government epigones in the process who are
hopelessly bought and kept in place by their corporate
sponsors. Including Democrats, those who would reform
capitalism to save us all as well like the current pack of
presidential candidates.
I don't give a good god-damn if Goldman-Sachs makes billions
from investments in windmills, solar panels and all the rest. We
have a situation now where Yupiks in Nome are having their lives
destroyed because the ice is disappearing--as I pointed out in
an earlier post today.
I have a different take on this stuff than A. O-C, Greta
Thunberg, Bill McKibben and even Naomi Klein. I think that we
are headed toward massive crises because neither wing of the
capitalist class is capable of what they call "de-growth". You
have an enormous contradiction between the 500 years of
capitalist accumulation tendencies and the needs of the human
race to survive in harmony with nature. As the century staggers
on, there will be bloody confrontations between the capitalist
class and ordinary people over these matters. Right now, people
are fleeing Central America not just because of gangs but
because climate change is making farming impossible.
Against this major confrontation, we are faced with clashes
within capitalism that we have to take a proper stand on. The
Paris Accords were woefully lacking but we have to speak out in
favor of enforcing them even if that puts on the same side as
Goldman-Sachs. Wildlife preservation and many other aspects of
life on earth need defending. It is only the class-conscious
vanguard of the ecosocialist movement that can be consistent in
such a struggle, not Goldman-Sachs.
As for Engdahl and Cartalucci, these are supporters of the most
reactionary sectors of the petrochemical industry. They are like
Spiked Online and all the other snakes who take money from the
Koch brothers. I don't need them to tell me that Goldman-Sachs
is against socialism. I worked there for over 2 years and don't
need Larouche's stooges to educate me on that.
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Lou, how could I not agree with everything you're saying? Just
acknowledge that we have to confront the fact that what these
conspiracists write here has substance in part, that enormously powerful
people have the means and every design, not just to profit from
windmills but to seize the issue of climate disaster and run with it in
directions that will mean still more years of evasion, run-away
profit-taking, increasing inequality and confusion, untold suffering for
most of us, irreversible destruction of our planet, buttressing of
capital as solution or only alternative, more of the "lesser evil," more
delay in tackling the real problem, exacerbation of these enormous
contradictions, and that we're kind of facing a diversion point that we
should be very wary of, chilled by, cataclysmally frightened about. Then
this discussion is put to rest, to that extent.
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