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John, I have been active student (courses and all that) of soil fertility for almost 3 years now. I've learned about 20% of what I think I may need to know. It is a highly complex issue. I've written on some of this as well and posted links here. Others are "getting into science of soil fertility" as well. Knowing how our food is produced, a we can *change* the way it is produced, is part and parcel of both climate activism and the science of geology, agronomy and soil. I think the question is poised wrong. It is not "grasslands vs forests" at all. Everyone I know loves to have new forests planted. Even the far right is into forest conservation if it' doesn't mean we can't ever cut down a tree. Forests do indeed sequester lots of carbon. I won't even attempt to give a flip answer on the question of the indigenous genocide against native peoples as cause for "Little Ice Age" of the mid to late 18th Century. I haven't a clue. No, the issue of "grasslands" (pastures, steppes, sahels, prairies and so on) is not really an issue. The only real issue fpr the "land question" is over climate change with regards to standard commercial farming practices vs regenerative agricultural practices. Few would dispute the value of forests. It does come down to the soil. That is a good place to start in studying this. One can read authors like David Montgomey's (the geologist and soil scientist, not the labor historian) two books on the subject: "Dirt" and more recently "“Growing a Revolution: Bringing Our Soil Back to Life". Both are good reads and one learns a helluvalot on soil, the climate and agriculture. I poised the question this way, commercial vs regenerative agriculture because that is largely how we can, *dynamically*, change the soil fertility, reverse the nitrogen glut into the water and oceans, and sequester enough carbon to also effect positively the climate. Trees do it even better but we need to grow food too, dirive some sort of economic intercourse between farmers, urban workers and the land ("healing the metabolic rift between our species and nature") Just planting forests (which actually require lots of maintenance actually, and water...see our forest fires out here where I live) won't hack it, IMO though, again, it is very wrong to counterpoise the two systems: forests and regenerative agriculture. They easily work in harmony with each other. It also doesn't require us to give up eating meat, I might add, which is why political vegans are quite upset about regen agriculture since it relies heavily on integrating animal husbandry with such farming practices where practical. (zing!) David Walters _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com