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Thank you Phil! Several times I have seen your good communist stance and gender etc on the list. I am disgusted at the misogyny there and with most of the sex work is work and the trans bs itself all over the place. It is like everyone has taken stupid pills. Madness. Institutional capture. I cannot even bring myself to comment about it online because it just triggers my ptsd caused from years of exposure to and exploitation from predatory males. I just cannot. I know many other women will not say anything either. But I really feel that there is so much at stake for women. I work in other ways. But we rely on men like you to keep these misogynistic arseholes educated. If not for the arseholes, who are likely lost causes themselves, but for those watching on. Just wanted to say thanks. What you are saying matters. Much respect, Magda On 30/12/19 2:11 pm, Philip Ferguson via Marxism wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > The argument of the resident misogynists like and Andrew Stewart is > basically because *heterosexual men* attack and kill trans-identified > males, *women* should give up their spaces! > > Like the Zionist argument that because white Christian Europeans persecuted > and butchered Jews, *Palestinians* should give up their spaces to Jewish > people and the Zionist project. > > The misogynists even copy the Zionist methodology when confronted with > women who resist their space being invaded and taken over. When > Palestinians resist and other people support them, the charge of > "anti-semitism" is hurled. > > There is no more reason for women to give up their spaces to > trans-identified males than there is reason for Palestinians to give up > their space to Jewish people. > > The fact that some men want women to be punished for the sins of the > straight men who bash and kill trans people simply reveals a strong strand > of misogyny. make the women pay! > > Andrew claims "bathroom bans lead to sexual assault of trans/genderqueer > people". Not women's problem or responsibility. That's men's problem and > responsibility. The fact that a few people here are trying to put this > onto women reveals a real problem in their attitude to women. > > And anyone who thinks we are dealing with a liberation movement needs to > open their eyes and smell the misogyny. Indeed, violent misogyny permeates > trans-identified male attitudes to women. Rape threats, incitement to > stabbings, murder threats etc are documented in the hundreds. > > And, again, our resident misogynists' response is to ignore. excuse and/or > enable this violent misogyny. Or they try to shift the goalposts by > talking about anti-trans violence, ignoring the fact that it is not > gender-critical women who are threatening rape, stabbings, beatings, murder > against trans - it is trans-identified males threatening it and inciting it > against women. > > A small sample of the violent misogyny routinely directed at women by > trans-identified males: > https://rdln.wordpress.com/2019/11/06/the-leftists-enabling-violent-misogyny/e > > Then, of course, there's the rapey entitlement culture of men claiming to > be lesbians and harassing and denouncing actual lesbians who are not > interested in them and their penises. > > Fortunately, there is a growing response on the left against the new > misogyny. Some expressions of this on the internet are the Gender Critical > Left group of Marxists, anarcho-syndicalists and left social democrats on > facebook, a large percentage of which are women; the Gay Men Address Gender > Identity group on fb; the LGB Gender Critical Radicals on fb; and others. > > I won't be engaging with the likes of Andrew Steward, and any other > misogynists here. With their super-entitled demands on women they do tend > to expose themselves. > > Phil > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/me%40magnoliabloomberg.com _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
