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To be honest, I'm not sure who the "no one" in the title is because these seem to be pretty widely expressed views. The green movement is certainly arguing both pretty stridently and some mainstream people are picking up on them too. Point one, while true in a sense, appears more religious than scientific, especially when accompanied by such statements as "the earth is telling us that the capitalist world is using her up, fouling her systems, killing off species useful and needful to her, and no one species however sapient can be allowed to do that." The earth hasn't "struck back", which requires some sort of conscious or unconscious decision making. It's just that (capitalist) human activity has pushed elements of our ecosystem to a breaking point where mass condensing of animals into cramped environments, whether 'wet markets' in Asia or antibiotic drenched factory farms in the West, into conditions that could not have better replicated the petri dishes of the 1918 trenches. Point two too has been made loud and clear by the environmentalist movement since the 1970s at least - probably earlier. "Small is beautiful" has been a rallying cry of that movement since its inception. So while eliminating the mass factory farming elements of our production systems and fetishising huge scale 'efficiency' may well be a good plan, claiming that "no one is mentioning" it seems odd to say the least. Any mainstream liberal publication you open will be airing these views. Cheers, John On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 12:18 AM Louis Proyect via Marxism < [email protected]> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > Two truths at least are certain in this post-pandemic world: > > 1) Humans have so dominated the world, destroying much of non-human life > and systems in the process, that the world has struck back in recoil and > seeks to readjust the balance. > > 2) Human sustenance systems are far too large and unwieldly to be > effective and the smaller the system or operation the more efficient, > useful, friendly, or supportive. > > full: > > https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/05/07/two-truths-from-the-pandemic-no-one-is-mentioning/ > > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/johnedmundson4%40gmail.com > -- The law locks up the man or woman Who steals the goose from off the common But leaves the greater villain loose Who steals the common from the goose _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
