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"Stokes falsely accuses the film of advocating for population control and then compares the filmmakers with hate groups ... Nowhere in the film does anyone even mention population control, much less advocate for it. In fact, the filmmakers are against population control. Producer Ozzie Zehner is recorded saying clearly, “I’m not for population control”." Right, not for pop control, just number one with pop control advocates! Frankly, I don't care about what views they have outside of their films when it's the films that will be mass consumed. The reality is that the film did not take a hardline position against population control, and if you mention population as a cause of the climate crisis but don't immediately follow up with an opposition to population control, then logic of the argument is for population control. If you take a horse to water, don't be surprised if it drinks. This is - at best - a glaring omission which provides succor to ecofascists parading as socialist degrowthers and at worst is a nod in the direction of ecofascism itself. Either way, enough to completely discredit the film, and that's before we get into the old school arguments it puts against renewable energy which Orfalea says aren't lies. Sure, they're not lies if we're talking about lying in the most strict sense (i.e. making the abstract historical argument), but they are absolutely misrepresentations of renewable energy to the point that they are lies of omission. The argument can be made that the film isn't "about" renewable energy tech, but if that's the case don't spend a good chunk of it attacking old renewable energy tech without explaining how things have improved. Again - not anti-renewable energy, just number one with anti-renewable energy advocates! There is no simple technological fix for climate change. But climate change is a technology problem - you will not stop, slow or mitigate climate change without green tech - or genocide. It's also a social problem (of property relations, ecological renewal etc) and an economic problem (of the capitalist market and profit motive both of which lead to wasteful consumption patterns and inhibit the development of green tech). The choice is green technology organised and implemented by a planned economy or genocide. Ecosocialism or ecofascism. As far as I'm concerned, with the way Planet of the Humans presents itself, it tries to ride the fence. The most generous analysis you can honestly put forward of this is that it's a massive propaganda blunder by well-intentioned filmmakers, though frankly calling the likes of Gibbs well-intentioned is a bit of a stretch. On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 16:49, Louis Proyect via Marxism <marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > https://medium.com/@0rf/vox-shamelessly-smears-michael-moores-planet-of-the-humans-4ddd4706bf5a > > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/elsayeds%40tcd.ie _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
