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The responses to my defense of antifa were predictable. Louis, like he usually does, confuses the amorphous and difficult to define antifa with the black bloc which operates somewhere between the autonomist movement and the early weatherman ( days of rage). Once that misrepresentation is assumed, he proceeds with criticism that is both warranted and unwarranted. He and I have debated this more than once. Ken's comments seem to reflect the former ISO position, which is actually not counter to most antifa manifestations. In other words, the most effective way to shut down fascists is through mass protests. Obviously, the militance of those protests depends on the locale and other such things that always come into play at protests. Misconstruing antifa is part of what my piece was about. Even the FBI has stated they have no evidence of Antifa involvement in rioting or looting this past week-- whatever that's worth. Ron j _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com