Alan writes: "Aside from Nick Origlass and co, wasn't Ian Jamieson on
a council in Tasmania for a while? When he was in the DSP?"

Well, I should  rephrase that to formally standing as a socialist
"party" candidate as I had forgotten these others because of my narrow
mindset. Rather than get into a tag team match splitting hairs over
this and that will that rephrasing satisfy you?

Now you could argue that Jamo was a party candidate because he was
indeed a member of the DSP --  but the DSP had no structures in NW
Tasmania since the late eighties(?) and his election was not run as a
party election campaign.

It's like, say, you winning a ward in Toowoomba as a local person not
as a socialist  party member. This isn't  about promoting Bernie
Sanders type campaigns -- in the way that Origlass elections in
Leichardt  were..

And as it followed,  that the electoral success In North West Tasmania
  did not lead to  re-establishing a party branch of the DSP.

Whereas in the case of the SA win in Fremantle, where the SA has a branch:

(1) The success is for a party that is denounced for being  in idle
mode and with  supposedly no electoral  prospects worth getting
excited about. For example, as the GLW report says,"Of the six new
councillors elected there is one ALP member, two Greens, two
independents and one Socialist Alliance. However under WA electoral
law local government candidates can not formally run for political
parties and Wainwright was the only candidate to declare his political
affiliations in his campaign material. "
(2) The success is for a party in an area  which has strong
progressive traditions -- like  Origlass' Leichhardt.
(3) The success is for  a party  to the left of the Labor Party (like
Stephen Jolly's 2004 result) which has won despite the electoral
weight normally carried by the Greens.. This shows in the fact that,
as I understand it, the Greens weren't running against Sam directly.
However, in an instance of  the Melbourne results we began to out poll
the Greens .

Another feature of the SA's work generally  in Perth is the attempt to
broaden its campaigns out by developing a strong partnership  approach
with the left of the Greens and with the considered support of a
couple of far left groups who aren't in the SA.

But if you relate this win to the Melbourne results then we can say
that in some areas of local government , at least-- where people are
more experimental in their voting patterns --, there is a trend to the
socialist left's advantage so long as it is tied to local grass roots
presence. (As is the case with Sam Wainwright). This is the problem
that the Socialist Party faces with Jolly , I think: that you have to
tick a number of 'local presence' boxes across the urban
neighbourhoods before you will be elected to represent them. After
that, as in the case of the Greens in some capitals, brand
identification kicks in. In the case of  Jolly  in 2004 --  you also
gotta be blessed with a good preference flow -- not just your primary
vote. And I guess any party has to have a lucky  break -- in the
Greens case, NDP break through aside, the more liberal Hare Clark
system of voting in Tasmania  was their electoral break through just
as no upper parliament house in Queensland is still their burden

But with the 7th Socialist Alliance national conference coming up in
January next which coincides with, what is surely to be, the merging
of the DSP into the Alliance,  then a I think this win is a great
opener to the lead up.

We also ran a very good campaign in Freo from which we can learn
because we are getting better at doing this.

dave riley

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