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Yes, that is correct-- I used that as a lead in to explore the real sources 
of the collapse.

I responded to your other points in the rest of the post.

The fundamental question is  why did the fSU and its satellites/allies 
collapse, and collapse when they did?

There is either a Marxist analysis, which explains this in terms of internal 
class relations as impacted by international class relations, or 
there's..... conspiracy theory.  I sure we both reject the latter and are 
more interested in the former in order to avoid a repeat.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dogan Gocmen" <dgn.g...@googlemail.com>
To: "David Schanoes" <sartes...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Come back Karl



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