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Well, I was just about to say, "What do you mean people carrying on as if 
nothing was going on..."  by pointing out the NYT article on the soaring use 
of food stamps, but Matt did that for me, so I'll move on to some other 
items.

Yes, I regard neo-liberalism as an ideological smoke-screen, like Friedman's 
free marketeering was the smokescreen for "rationalizing" Pinochet.  The 
driving force was the a change in the demands, desires of  the US 
bourgeoisie after rates of return peaked in 69 or 70.  After overproduction 
raised its ugly face again.    After rolling back the strike wave of the 
early 70s-- it was time to begin an assault on the living standards of the 
working class.   That assault has been pretty well sustained since then.

But I don't think "neo-liberalism" is the movement. Now the Christian 
Right... that's a movement.  The anti-abortion terrorists... that's a 
movement.  But identifying neo-liberalism as a movement is a bit like 
telling me that George Wallace's campaign was a movement based on state's 
rights and not segregation.  State's Rights was bullshit. Segregation, 
preserving, restoring the relations of power that made segregation, that was 
the movement.

Agree again:  Nothing's automatic, everything must be constructed-- but it 
doesn't get constructed out of thin air.  But isn't a belief in automatism 
really contained in discounting of the actual material conditions based on 
the supposed passivity of the working class.  The passivity exists.  It does 
not automatically go away when times get tougher. It has been created over 
many years of asset-stripping, capital flight, downsizing, reduced real 
wages, defeats of strikes.    So in reversing that passivity, and in 
constructing what we call class-consciousness, we have to know, to truly 
apprehend what's going on in the circuits of capital... hence "the endless 
chatter" concerning economics that Carrol finds so wasteful...  Just so that 
it will make some sense to everybody else when Marxists go on record as 
opposing bank bailouts,  government guarantees of  money markets, 
government assumption of the debt of the GSEs, and instead argue for 
canceling the debts, expropriating the banks and declaring null and void all 
loan covenants, collateral requirements attached to asset-back securitis, 
CDOs,  credit default swaps, etc. etc.

I think the decisive factors in the bourgeoisie "rescuing" accumulation are 
in destroying the very components inherent in capital that undermine 
accumulation--  labor as wage-labor, the means of production as private 
property.  I agree with you,  the bourgeoisie think they can get out of this 
crisis.  Hell, Nixon and Kissinger were convinced they could defeat the 
Vietnamese right through 72, 73, 74 [ Nobody said delusion doesn't have 
material consequences].  And I am not certain that the bourgeoisie can't get 
out of the crisis. But  I am certain that the price that will be paid for 
the bourgeoisie to get out of the crisis will be horrific.  Look at the 
price paid throughout the world when capital isn't confronted with trillions 
of dollars in non-performing assets-- then multiply that by a trillion.

IMO,  opportunities here and now in the US:  1) immigrant labor-- we have to 
develop a campaign to mobilize workers to force employers to not allow 
employment records to be used for detaining, arrest, interrogation, and 
deportation of workers.  2) health care-- universal health care, 
decentralized/centralized--  neighborhood health care centers staffed by 
professionals but reporting to a communist oversight board on a) specific 
but widespread health problems in the community  b) programs of mitigation 
and prevention of those problems






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From: "brad bauerly" <[email protected]>
To: "David Schanoes" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Eight theses on the economic crisis


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