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In a message dated 12/27/2009 12:55:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) writes: >> The issue you raise would involve a debate about the dialectic of reform and revolution. It is very much on the agenda of the left world-wide. But, I am afraid, I do not see any sense in going on with these blind debates. So I am sorry if I cannot contribute to your enjoying yourself. << Reply Reform and revolution as a contradiction or the dialectic of reform and revolution, has caused us grief. Lenin's and Rosa L. writings on reform and revolution are outdated. The dialectic of reform is different from the dialectic of revolution. Quantitative changes in the productive forces, expansion on the old basis, generate reform movements. Qualitative changes in the productive forces, development on a new technological basis, create the impulse for social revolution. In real life things are never categorical, but this should not defect from presenting a proposition in clear terms. Revolutionaries cannot transform one into the other (reform into revolution) on the basis of correct thinking, correct program, correct political line, self organization of the proletariat, independence from the bourgeoisie, etc. The Senate bill does not in my opinion merit a debate about reform and/or revolution. WL. ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: [email protected] Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
