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In this thread there seems to be a consistent meme: "Progressive" Berlin versus "Reactionary" Vienna. Technologically that seems justified--Hitler and his V2 rockets, without which we wouldn't yet have the satellites by which this communication has become possible, sprung from Hohenzollern Berlin, not Habsburg Vienna. Historically, though, capitalist technological progress since Bismark has been destructive of the workingclass movement which Marx and Engels (correctly, IMO) identified as the sole social force capable of achieving real historical progress instead of advanced technological barbarism. There however is another type of human progress: the permanent advancement of the cultural and spiritual endowment of mankind. And here there is absolutely no contest. Berlin has given virtually nothing (Hegel is the sole exception) to our cultural and spiritual heritage. No city has given more than Vienna. Shane Mage > This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it > always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, > kindling in measures and going out in measures." > > Herakleitos of Ephesos ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: [email protected] Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
