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Yes, yes, I know this was supposed to be over. But I had to note something just
for the record, and Les had granted one more post to each for the day...so.
In his last message Gorojovsky addressed me as a slanderous bastard, before
that he had called me a ‘pelotudo’ (roughly, a brainless schmuck), an ignorant,
an oligarch. Nestor, clearly, doesn’t know a fucking thing about me (and yet
he’s as lunatic as to write about it as fact), to the point that he
ridiculously associated me with Claudio Katz, a professor at the university of
Buenos Aires, and the group ‘Economistas de Izquierda’ which he apparently
organizes. Well, I’ve had a very personal relationship with Katz…in youtube
videos.
On another note, Nestor charges me with having disreputed Jorge Enea
Spilimbergo, whom besides having read a couple essays I googled for, I know
nothing of. I hadn’t mentioned Spilimbergo in any of my posts so I don’t know
why Nestor brought him up.
In any case, Nestor totally, once again, misread what I was going for. What I
said was that Nestor and his comrades explain the ‘treachery’ of Menem as just
that: ‘treachery’, so that they actually expected someone like Menem to put the
interests of workers before the parasitic class he represents (though in
Nestor’s idiotic theory the bourgeoisie, or some who-knows-which section of it,
in Argentina have very important tasks to complete, if they only got their
asses to it, and imperialism wasn't on their back, Argentina would reach
Germany's capacity in no time). So Spilimbergo said to Menem in his face that
he was a traitor,… great, that confirms my point, which is, here comes, real
Marx and Engels: you put abstract consciousness before social being. Schematic?
Well, you’re gonna have to deal with a lot of your own Marx-Engels empty
epithets, if you want to throw that one out. So, in your worldview, your very
“concrete” and “dialectical” real life politics, Gorojovsky, that Menem was the
richest motherfucker in La Rioja, not to mention his connections with the
mafia, not to mention his whole parasitic careerist track, not to mention how
he sold out every fucking bit of public patrimony ‘in your face’, not because
he was forced to but because that is the social force he had to personify which
anyone who can concretely (as opposed to your abstract mental construction of
the national front) understand a little about the specificity of how capital
accumulates in Argentina ought to see, doesn’t matter; he said “siganme, no los
voy a defraudar!” (“follow me, I won’t let you down!”) and so, because the
masses followed him, you abstractly impose out of nowhere that these are the
objective interests of the working class. Now, I suppose, comes Nestor
rebuttal: “Who are you to say what the interests of the working class are, you
oligarch?!”. But it’s not me who says it Gorojovsky, it is capital, remember?,
the overpowering subject of society. And what capital determines as the
objective interests of the working class, which is an attribute of capital, is
to constantly revolutionize the mode of social metabolism which is to give the
working class its historical powers to realize the ultimate potency, and so
surpass the ultimate barrier, of capitalism, itself, (and there are different
barriers to go through before that.) That isn’t to say obviously that those who
understand this necessity consciously have to sit around to wait for capital to
do whatever, that is not to say that one is to deprecate the masses as
inferior, because that from the very beginning would imply that on the one side
there is some abstract consciousness which can engineer the workings of
capitalism on the other, when that consciousness is actually a product of
capital, unlike Nestor’s distorted and shameless bullshit does, so that he
blames it on what he calls the “mainstream left”, that is, the left which
fought for an independent program of the working class, with its own problems,
that the disaster was brought about by the conscious organ of the working class
which started to discover itself in complete antagonism to the interests of
capital.
Why shameless bullshit? And here I’ll quit the “orthodox oligarchical style”,
because Nestor is as fucking daring as to imply that the revolutionaries who
died in struggle were actually the ones who were to “lead” the working class,
as if it wasn’t a question of the working class leading itself, to disaster
(since the interests of the working class lie in building a class alliance with
a particular section of the bourgeoisie which really is revolutionary, as long
as there are no traitors to screw it up….why didn’t Nestor's beloved Lenin and
Trotsky fucking think about that one?) so that the latter had to bury them,
deciding consciously, according to Nestor, to bury them 6 feet under. So Nestor
expects us to feel compassion and respect because he fought policemen and
military-men and he came out on 2001, while he literally spits on the memory of
thousands upon thousands of communists who died, were tortured, and had their
sons and daughters assassinated in front of them.
So my note to the moderators is this: the first thread in which I had a
somewhat confrontational exchange with him had been closed off, correctly, by
comrade Proyect and the reasons he gave for that was that Nestor has been
contributing to Marxmail for 11 years while I was just a newbie and I had
started the discussion too abruptly. I understand that. Yet, it’s now the third
time that Gorojovsky addresses me personally throwing insult (and this would be
the first time I respond to that,) after calling a comrade a “murderer”, who,
Bill Quimby’s nagging discontent notwithstanding –sorry Bill, I think your
quibble with S.Artesian is misplaced, I refer you to the totally out of nowhere
“murderer” accusation which Nestor posted last month—has been providing
thoughtful insight on a varied range of issues than most of us, at least in my
case, can.
I personally couldn't care less about Nestor's inventions about me, but this,
this is a bit too much crap, no? you know having the Marxist pope being so
despicably condescending toward the deaths of Marxists just like that....
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