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On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:09 PM, Rosa Lichtenstein wrote:
>
> Shane, have you got me confused with Paula?
>
Sorry for the fingerfehler.

> 1) I am quite happy to bad-mouth a mystic, but *not* a fellow comrade,
> unless I am abused first.
>
> 2) I am well aware that other ruling-class hacks

so you are quite happy to abuse the most important philosopher ever

> , like Plato, thought highly of Heraclitus,

take seriously is not the same as "thinking highly."  In any case  
Plato's discussion of Herakleitos (which Rosa has obviously never  
read, still less understood) is highly critical (in a dialectical  
sense, of course).

> but what has that got to do with whether or not Heraclitus
> was a fool to think that he could derive fundamental truths about  
> all of
> reality for all of time from what was or was not true of stepping  
> into a
> river

Anyone who writes that way about Herakleitos  is plainly a total  
ignoramus.

Shane Mage

> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
>
> Herakleitos of Ephesos
>




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