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Shawn Redden writes: 


> 
> I have said several times that any sort of environmentalism that 
> relies on the religion of corporate science without calling for 
> reparations to the global South and economic justice for the 
> criminals who poison the earth is dubious.
> 

Dubious corporate science, Dr Beetroot? Like the research, funded 
almost entirely by capitalist institutions, which shows that the it is 
the Human Immunodeficiency Virus that causes the AIDS, and that 
HAART slows the progression of the disease? 

>
> There is a reason why Chavez, Morales, etc. took such a strong stand 
> in opposition to the carbon-trading, air-privatizing agenda the 
> Greenies advocate with such vigor.  Chavez's response to the 
> Copenhagen agenda advanced by the Greenies who carry so much truck on 
> this list, summed up so aptly by Comrade Fidel is a post forwarded to 
> this list, is generally the position to which we should gravitate.
> 

One has to wonder about your literacy. Fidel Castro, Evo Morales and 
Hugo Chavez explicitly based their position at the Copenhagen summit 
on the scientific reports of the IPCC. Nowhere in their written or spoken 
statements will you find any endorsement by Chavez, Morales or Castro 
of your irrational Dr Beetroot denialist position towards the mainstream 
scientific understanding of climate change, or any mention by them of 
IPCC being influenced by "a religion of corporate science," or of supposed
scientific malfeasance at East Anglia etc. 

Castro, Morales and Chavez have drawn the rational and correct conclusions 
from the IPCC, namely that human induced climate change is a most 
immediate way in which capitalism threatens the future of the planet, and 
that real solutions to this problem can only be envisaged in a socialist 
organisation of society.

Nor will you find any quote in the archives to support your ludicrous 
and slanderous charge that any contributor to this list supports or has
supported corporate green-washing, carbon trading etc. 

> The difference between us is when a light is shone upon liars who say 
> with profound clarity, "we're lying to the you in order to advance 
> the agenda of our underwriters," I take note.
> 
> You take note too, I suppose in order to defend the esteemed 
> reputation of said liars, it seems.

For goodness sake, do something about your scientific illiteracy 
before you write anything more on this subject. 

Lajany Otum



      
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