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> > > > > Paula wrote: > > > Gary, there will always be droughts. They are a normal phenomenon - > > as are storms, floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, etc. They wouldn't be > > so horrific if society was rationally organized, and that's the main > > point the left should be making. > > My reply: > Sorry I missed this Paula. I have been traveling. Look we are obviously at the stage where we have nothing new to say to each other. But I will make a final effort at dialogue. I have to confess though -that I simply don't understand where you and Shawn are coming from. As I see it there are three positions. A.. The world is not getting warmer. B. Global warming is a fact but it is caused by cyclical events. C Global warming is a fact and it is caused or aggravated by carbon emissions. The deniers seem to me to move in an unprincipled way between positions A. and B. For instance it seems to me at times you occupy position B and at other times you move to A. Certainly Shawn bewilders me with his switching. My position is C. and I also add that the cost of holding B. is greater than the cost of holding C. If people like me are wrong then it is not a catastrophe. If you and Shawn are wrong then it is a terminal disaster for the human race. I personally think that puts a moral onus on all you "Bers" to be extra careful. Now Shawn jumping up and down about routine academic thuggery at East Anglia is not being serious in my opinion. I teach a class on scientific method. I am absolutely frank about the academy. When paradigms clash it is like something out of the Godfather movies. I have lived all that shit and I know it. But I tell my students that they must put the dialectics of epistemology i.e academic thuggery aside and seek the ontological. Jones may be and I am certainly inclined to think so one of the greatest shits on the planet but he may still be right about global warming. As the notorious Chinese Machiavelli said "seek truth from facts!" comradely regards Gary ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: [email protected] Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
