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Lou is angry - very - about Michale Moore's remarks on the Democrats.  I am
inclined to sadness more than anger, because I have a residual feeling of
loyalty and admiration towards Moore. So I am not ready to "damn his eyes".

But in my time one of the great tragedies is that use was not made of Ralph
Nader  & Peter Camejo to build the progressive/radical Alternative Mass
Party in the States.

It was there - a real chance and it was blown -mostly by liberals too I
think and that is the category I would now put Moore in. So now he talks of
taking over the Democrats from the bottom up.  That near makes me puke. You
might as well try and take over the Australian Labor Party from the bottom.
It has all been tried and it has not worked.

I understand Lou's anger then.  There is so much at stake for the
marginalised of the world and to crap on about rank and file democracy in
the Democrat Party is criminally irresponsible.

regards

Gary
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