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S. Artesian wrote: > > > Rosa is an ignoramus who hasn't read Marx, except for the preface to Vol > 1, > and she distorts that. Her methodology is 3Ds and an S: denial, > distortion, > disavowal and sophistry. > > Ask her any thing about the labor process, about the relationship of > wage-labor to capital, about the accumulation of capital and the tendency > of > the rate of profit to decline and all you get back is how she "doesn't > have > to do that, because Marx did it for us." And right she is! What else could puny Rosa add to something that more clever people than her have pretty much sewn up and bagged? Also, I would think that any proponent of dialectics would be more eager to debate the "mysterious ways" of dialectics with an Anti-dialectics than the boring topic of declining rates of profit, no? Strange. Why is that, that lack of response significant? Because those are the > issues where dialectic resides; because that's the transposition of the > dialectic from Hegel's "spirit" to the actual social organization of labor > that Marx executes. As I understand it, Marx's investigations into capitalist economic relations rely on the materialist conception of history, not on some mystical mumbo-jumbo of "thesis, antithesis, etc." It's the materialist conception of history, applied to the arithmetic of capitalism and its social evolution, I believe, that places Marxism firmly in the realm of science, where it belongs. It's not a philosophy of logic Marx is deploying, it's the analysis of the > real content of history. What is this "real content of history", please? Or are you saying that just to bewitch me, oh Wizard? She's a total phony. If I had known that my previous comment on a silly statement would elicit abuse of a person of the left that isn't here to defend herself I would have kept it to myself. No matter. It is a well known fact that it's not just the capitalists and their minions who prefer to insult and belittle those who would dare disagree with them. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/-Marxism--The-awful-truth-about-Social-Democracy-tp28074046p28078067.html Sent from the Marxism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: [email protected] Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
