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Andy Pollack wrote:
>Gary's completely right about the pessimistic worldview of Golding.
But it's always seemed to me that Lord of the Flies was an extremely
effective portrayal, even if done unintentionally, of how thin the
veneer of our civilization is, in this case despite all the advantages
and privileges and supposed culture of the English upper classes. In
that sense it mirrors Conrad's Heart of Darkness.


But isn't that one of the mostr misanthropic things about the novel?

I studied it in high school in sixth form (when you're 16).  I hated it and
thought it was not merely pessimistic but anti-human.  The assumption that
you take humans away from an existing society and they revert to some
barbaric, savage state is without any foundation at all.  It's in line with
the whole 'Naked Ape' idea of humanity.  In fact, taken out of a civilised
society, humans tend to attempt to recreate civilisation rather than fall
back into some savage state.

I'm not quite sure what Golding's purpose was.  Maybe he was trying to show
that the English upper class institutions don't really civilise people.  But
if that was his point, there were better ways of showing it.

I've just finished reading 'The White Tiger'.  Its portrayal of the Indian
upper class reminds me a lot of Rohinton Mistry's magnificent 'A Fine
Balance'.  Now there are two really good writers portraying the lack of
civilisation among the social elite without writing novels that are
misanthropic.

Plus, for kids behaving badly Susan Hill's 'I'm the King of the Castle' is
better than Golding's 'Lord of the Flies'.

Phil
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