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On 2010-12-07, at 7:00 PM, Louis Proyect wrote:

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> On 12/7/10 6:59 PM, Lajany Otum wrote:
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>> Or as Richard Greener wrote in the article to which Gary was referring:
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>> "If we start now there's time for a reliable, truthful, electable
>> liberal-progressive Democrat to emerge."
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> To which I wrote Richard: "I think the chances for a socialist 
> revolution are more auspicious."

Both, of course, are equally inauspicious possibilities at the present time. 
The issue is whether going through the experience and inevitable frustration of 
trying to elect a liberal-progressive Democrat will lead your friend Richard 
and others like him to finally break with the party and start a new one to its 
left, or will drive him out of politics altogether. As we know, previous 
efforts of Marxists - including most famously, Lenin's advice in relation to 
the Labour Party - to "enter" bourgeois union-based reform parties in order to 
turn the base against the leadership as a prelude to a revolutionary split from 
it all ended in failure. But, so for that matter, have attempts to batter the 
DP and social democratic parties from the outside through the creation of 
Potemkin village "progressive" and "revolutionary socialist" parties which have 
also gone nowhere.

All of these failures, however, took place in a period when capitalism was 
expanding and, despite periodic crises, providing its working classes with 
steadily improving living standards. The mistaken assumption of the radical 
left was that the period was revolutionary, that the working class would become 
increasingly immiserated, and that capitalism would collapse under the weight 
of its internal contradictions. 

That long period of expansion and relative prosperity and job security has now 
ended in the advanced capitalist countries, and in the US is reflected in the 
inability of the Bush and Obama administration to resolve its mounting domestic 
and foreign policy crises. These have produced the tea party on the right and 
the growing disaffection within the Democratic party. Whether and how far these 
political developments will progress will depend on whether the bourgeoisie 
succeeds in containing these crises or whether they continue to deepen. Whether 
a future radicalization would begin inside the Democratic party, the seeds of 
which seem to me to be appearing, or outside of it, as most Marxmailers 
believe, is something we can only know in retrospect.



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