Comrades,
 
I hope that Alan will learn some socialist integrity in arguing against his opponents, and also, some socialist rationality to understand that repeating his meaningless idealist statements ad nauseam under tags of Marx, Engles, Lenin, Marxism-Leninism, and dialectical-materialism is an infantile futile effort.
                                                                            Javad
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Dover
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:02 PM
Subject: RE: [MLL] The Historical Significance of the Two-stage Revolution

Comrade Javad,
 
you have thoroughly exposed your own idealism in refuting the historical significance of the two-stage revolution as a mechanical materialist concept that, although it contradicts the concepts of the proletariat concerning the the dialectical process of change in society. It does eliminate the need for the  proletariat in the developing countries to suffer the historical evolution of the capitalist forces of production under the bourgeois dictatorship during the mechanisation, or industrialisation stage of development of the developing nation. 
Thus the two-stage revolution is tactic of scientific-socialism introduced by Marx and Engels in the interest of the proletariat in the advance to socialism, further developed and successfully put into practice by Lenin and Stalin, it is now an accepted process being implimented in the developing countries and therefore should be fully understood as such and studied to perfect it in the interest of the proletariat as a whole. It was a process specifically introduced to serve the proletariat of the developing countries.
  
Thus, the historical significance of the two-stage proletarian revolution is, its capability to provide the proletariat of the developing nations with a path to socialism without suffering the oppression of the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.
 
The conclusion to be drawn from our debate is that you deny the two-stage revolution just as Klo did, who went further to deny even that the October revolution was a proletarian revolution, a point that you rightly contradicted with him. However, you both denied that the October revolution was a two-stage revolution much less recognising the historical significance of it.
 
I agree with you that other comrades make their comments since it needs to be considered why you like Klo so desperately try to gloss over the true significance of the October two-stage proletarian revolution and to carefully consider, who does it serve to conceal the historical truth concerning the October two-stage revolution?
 
fFaternally Alan.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Javad Eskandarpour
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 6:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [MLL] The Historical Significance of the Two-stage Revolution

Comrades,
 
I have made my points regarding Alan's primitive eclectic idealism, but Alan still thinks that I distort his "dialectical" views. So, I hope that other comrades make their comments on Alan's views. I have nothing further to say regarding Alan's idealism because I have made many remarks previously and recently.
                                                                         Javad
 

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