In a message dated 1/12/2011 10:55:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _juliohuato@gmail.com_ (mailto:juliohu...@gmail.com) writes: Thank you. This is very informative. I wish you could elaborate a bit on the points quoted below. When you have a chance. "Something similar but at a much higher level is taking place in real time America. The trade union movement cannot and will not be reinvigorated on the basis of which it was formed: the industrial union model or during the transition from craft to industrial union form. Nor can the trade union movement be invigorated based simply on the employer-employee relations. The current “great recession” is not just cyclical crisis of overproduction but occurs against a backdrop of revolution in the means of production."
Comment I commit to something tomorrow. But it will be brief and with a narrative form. Jumping. This thing concerning the attempted assassination of an elected political representative and murder of several people and wounding of many more deserves attention. I am speaking about the role of force as an economic power versus the sterile concept of the role of violence. This 22 year old boy, pardon . . . . young man, who took up the gun as a political solution had an ideology that is being obscured. I believe his ideology was that of the so-called "Second Constitution" or the 13, 14 and 15 amendments outlawing slavery. The specific manner in which the ideological struggle is being framed in America is going to be important. I hope to write on this for Marxist Debate, but I always have other commitments in real time. We are celebrating the 150 anniversary of the Civil War in America and this is going to be a big issue in the political and ideological sphere. I am trying to get up to speed knowing that others are more capable. Yea, the industrial union form is spent. The UAW is fighting a death battle and trying to leap to another form of unionism where the union as an administrative apparatus transcends the bound of employee- employer relations and speaks to the needs of the destitute proletariat. There is nothing God ordained that says this fight will be won. We peaked at 1.5 million members and today have 355,000 with most outside auto or say 150,000 directly related to auto. Then there are 600,000 - 800,000 retired members of the union forced to enter a survival fight without a connection to an employer. This is not a thesis but a statement of fact. It gets deep because retired members of the union can pay $2 dues per month and stay organically connected to the union or they can form their own organization and pay say $4 a month to fight for their specific interest. I do not advocate split, at this time but things are gong to heat up real quick. WL. -- To post, send email to _marxist-debate@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:marxist-deb...@googlegroups.com) To unsubscribe, send email to _marxist-debate+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:marxist-debate+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) For more options, visit _http://groups.google.com/group/marxist-debate_ (http://groups.google.com/group/marxist-debate) _______________________________________________ Marxist-Leninist-List mailing list Marxist-Leninist-List@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxist-leninist-list
