>From Klo
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(snip) === message truncated === Klo, why do you have to engage in pointless arguments about what my web name is. What does it really matter. Can't you find a better argument to criticise me on? My reply, This has always been a side issue with me and you know it, so don�t try to paint it as something it isn�t in order to put me on the defensive. You conveniently ignore the fact that I even included it as part of a P.S. I don't know how you got the impression that I called myself Comandante Che in this NG. Could someone tell me or Klo when I have ever called myself Comandante Che in this NG?? As far as I know you called me Comandante Che when you visited my site. I thought we agreed to drop this topic, but it seems you are a bit reluctant. My reply, The only names I have seen in your messages in regard to you personally are Commandante Che and Joseph Stalin, neither of which you are. Now why don�t you tell me your real name or make up a pseudonym and use it, so we can more on to more substantive issues. And no, I don't disagree with Rafael on when socialism beggun in Russia. He says it was established as a system after Stalin, after the collectivisation and industralisation. This is exactly what Stalin (no, I don't mean me. I think you are smarter not to confuse the two, and certainly claiming that you can't doesn't help your image) said. My reply, Why don�t you and Rafael do a better job of identifying who is saying what on your messages. Earlier I attributed to him comments that were being made by you because of nebulosity. As far as this particular point is concerned, it is the only significant one I have found in which my view seems to differ from Stalin�s. Not long ago I was reading Chuev�s interview of Molotov and noticed the latter seemed to have the same problem with Stalin�s formulation and agreed with me. If socialism was established in the Soviet Union �after Stalin� or near the end of his leadership, then what kind of system did they have previously. For the cause, Klo PS. Most important: I am still waiting for replies to all those political questions I posed which you have studiously avoided answering. Do you want me to repeat them for the umpteenth time? This is the kind of response I received repeatedly on the Trot NG and is a major reason I left their benightedness. They were quick to attack Soso but evaded offering alternatives or answering queries. Simply stated, the would tell you what they were against but not what they were for. Tomorrow I will try to reply to the post from Charles which is more thoughtful.
