THoughts on Peter's post ---

I put "white" in front of working class to distinguish those folks who are
more susceptible to racist infection than the rest of the multi-racial,
multi-cultural working class --- The point is that there are countless
examples of class unity being disrupted --- (sometimes irrevocably
destroyed as when the Southern Populist Party opted to support JIM CROW
legislation after the electoral defeat in 1896 --- before then, there were
elements of black-white unity in the Farmers' Alliances as well as the
early years of the Populist Party ---

The Labor Aristocratic AFL supported the racism of many of its constituent
unions throughout the first half of the 20th century ---

So that's why I made sure to emphasize "white" when I wrote about the
susceptibility of "workers" in the US ---

And I am hoping that racism is being defeated by the "browning, etc." of
America --- it's hard to be racist when your new son-in-law is black or
latino and you're white !!!

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 5:19 PM Peter Turner <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have to admit some ignorance at trimming extraneous text.  I've done
> that with forwards, but not with replies.  Anyway, I wanted to make a point
> to Mike, and more indirectly to Sonje:
>
> The word "white" has been interjected before "working class", and this is
> potentially significant.  Those of us who observe political culture notice
> that the working class in the minds of many, if not most, is associated
> with white men.  I know Mike would protest that he is well aware of the
> reality, but it's he who interjected "white".
>
> We have seen critiques of this phenomenon that say that the reality of the
> working class is that it is mostly non-white/non-male.  Somehow the
> interests of those who are female or "of color" (I bristle a little at that
> term) are identified politically as that, rather than on the basis of their
> class position.  We also see that groups like the dreaded Socialist
> Equality Party make polemical points on this.  Let's be honest: It's not
> like they are simply bloviating.  Not on that point, at least.
>
> I think that Mike has a point about younger workers being more receptive
> to socialism, but I also think that the ideas of white male workers
> particularly are not so cast in stone.  As I said, they don't frame
> opinions that way.  They are not so anti-communist as just not focused on
> that.  Times have changed, and so have the dog-whistles.  My working
> experience was in conservative situations, I was not shy about my
> radicalism, and I had no blowback from fellow workers.  Union piecards, to
> be sure; but they aren't solidly in the working class.
>
> Hopefully we are aware of how class consciousness advances by leaps in
> situations of class struggle.  For those without this experience,
> industrial workers become very open to radical ideas on picket lines.  If
> you scratch below the rhetorical surface, you can find a latent class
> consciousness in most workers when they talk about the relations between
> them and "the boss".  To place workers, or anyone, in some political box
> due to what they might say when subjected to questions from a poll taker is
> misleading.  Consciousness is more fluid and more complicated than that.
> 
>
>

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