Everyone ought IMO to know that the US was objectively a settlerist slaveocracy that from its inception lustily murdered, exploited, and enslaved whole nations and immigrant chunk of nations and became a capitalist imperialist state that did the same thing as, eventually, the dominant superpower in an oppressive, exploitative, and deadly world system. Even today we shrink from describing that system fully because of its bewildering scale and because it seems impossible to change it.
The real question IMO is whether the continuing moral atrocity as evidenced glaringly (though by no means exclusively) by the universal and defiant public performance of racial murder by nearly all US police departments--"integration" or no--is so grave that it is no longer possible to see any value even amid gigantic contradictions in what was once generally considered to be the bourgeois democratic revolution of the Floundering Bothers--and its fulfillment in the US civil war and its aftermath. Some even continue to see value in what was once naively considered to be the worldwide defeat of fascism in World War II. Where do we all stand on this? If we can't see a value amid contradictions in European--indeed English and American history--perhaps starting with magna carta , all parties to which were parochial murdering thugs--what paradigm is available apart from "intersectionalism," Foucault-ism and other historically shallow (or initially shallow-looking) frameworks whatever they may be. And where is the Marxist critique of history after all that? Surely the historicity of the so-called American Revolution is in some sense significant there, even given the ripely fraudulent American Dream nonsense spouted by both so-called political parties in our all-but-lifeless ritual elections. Maybe these are not questions that should be asked. But if they are, what answers can the subscribers to this list begin to suggest? It should be possible to say something from the perspective of the ionosphere, even if ten wings of enraged commentary, compiled over innumerable pre-revolutionary generations, would be necessary to describe the answers fully. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#882): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/882 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/76411432/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES<br />#1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message.<br />#2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived.<br />#3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
